Apocalypse running. Only 2 events now.

[sahgwa]

The wikipedia leaves out the most important part; dispensationalists take their beliefs to their logical conclusion, such that they (dispensationalists) must make events happen that coincide or correlate with prophecy, thus bringing the End Times to bear.  So they will create a lot of events to 'make it  happen on purpose.'

[sahgwa]

I'm aware of it.   And after looking at prophecy I'm pretty certain Jesus Christ believed the prophesies of Daniel were to repeat in their entirety.  Daniel 8 and 11 specifically.  And I also believe the battle of the ram and goat prophecy of Daniel 8 is about to consummate. A major end time event running below the radar of 99% of the worlds population.

How would you define 'the end of the days of the Gentiles' ?

[UltraBudgie]

The wikipedia leaves out the most important part; dispensationalists take their beliefs to their logical conclusion, such that they (dispensationalists) must make events happen that coincide or correlate with prophecy, thus bringing the End Times to bear.  So they will create a lot of events to 'make it  happen on purpose.'

This is the same logic that believes if you name your cat "Israel", God won't let it get run over by a car.

[sahgwa]

This is the same logic that believes if you name your cat "Israel", God won't let it get run over by a car.

The sad thing is that these people have been in power a long time! And many of them are in the military and intelligence apparatus to try and bring about their craziness on purpose, cuz 'jeebus' .

[UltraBudgie]

The sad thing is that these people have been in power a long time! And many of them are in the military and intelligence apparatus to try and bring about their craziness on purpose, cuz 'jeebus' .

Yeah. Christian zionism is like the blue-lodge outer portico of frankism.

[sahgwa]

Yeah. Christian zionism is like the blue-lodge outer portico of frankism.

Please enlighten me as to Franksim and is that any relation to the Kingdom of the Franks?

[UltraBudgie]

is that any relation to the Kingdom of the Franks?

[ntech]

How would you define 'the end of the days of the Gentiles' ?

The verses in question.
Luke 21
24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

As I see it several prophesies are running concurrently.  Luke 21, Matthew 24,  Daniel 8, Revelation 6 and Mark 13.

As I see the timeline it's Iran governments failure completing the death of the ram.  Then Israel moves on Jerusalem and the Temple Mount.  That would require the appearance of the 2nd branch of Zechariah BTW.  Per Zechariah his presence is required to start work on the 3rd Temple and restart the animal sacrifices.  That triggers Luke 21:25, Matthew 24:29  through 31, and Revelation 6:12.  The 6th seal of Revelation.


So basically all hell is going to break loose and most likely this world will be unrecognizable next New Years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F90Cw4l-...rt_radio=1

[sahgwa]

The verses in question.
Luke 21
24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

As I see it several prophesies are running concurrently.  Luke 21, Matthew 24,  Daniel 8, Revelation 6 and Mark 13.

As I see the timeline it's Iran governments failure completing the death of the ram.  Then Israel moves on Jerusalem and the Temple Mount.  That would require the appearance of the 2nd branch of Zechariah BTW.  Per Zechariah his presence is required to start work on the 3rd Temple and restart the animal sacrifices.  That triggers Luke 21:25, Matthew 24:29  through 31, and Revelation 6:12.  The 6th seal of Revelation.


So basically all hell is going to break loose and most likely this world will be unrecognizable next New Years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F90Cw4l-...rt_radio=1

You have done what a lot of Christians do which is to quote scripture but you have also done what they do, which is omit your own interpretation by not answering the previous question. I appreciate your response and 'basically all hell is going to break loose' but what exactly to you does the phrase 'Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled' mean? 

Does this mean that non-Jews will invade and conquer Jerusalem? And what is their time being fulfilled? They 'finish' their role?

[ntech]

You have done what a lot of Christians do which is to quote scripture but you have also done what they do, which is omit your own interpretation by not answering the previous question. I appreciate your response and 'basically all hell is going to break loose' but what exactly to you does the phrase 'Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled' mean? 

Does this mean that non-Jews will invade and conquer Jerusalem? And what is their time being fulfilled? They 'finish' their role?

The times of the gentiles started back in 70AD when the Romans took Jerusalem and the Temple mount.   It's been running ever since.   There was a couple of days around 1967 and the 6 day war where Israel controlled the Temple Mount but otherwise the times of the gentiles is unbroken.

The times of the gentiles will end when the Jews restart the ritual sacrifices of bulls and start temple services. 


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