Animal sacrifice is allowed in Michigan

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Old news .... but I just found out about it.
Animal sacrifice and slaughter is allowed at home in part of Michigan.
It's a Muslim religious thing ...

You've never been to the Bronx or Miami, have you? 

Not just the muslims. 

Try not to think why so many keep urban chickens!

Regla de Ocha, Vodou?  They're very christian! Well its what happens you steal Yoruba people and sell them in the Caribbean, and then they get force-converted to different types of Christianity. 

And dont tell the Santera she's going to hell for ritual sacrifice. She'll light that St. Barbara candle and do something with a chicken. Maybe just the eggs. 

While Miami-Dade County Florida and The Bronx don't have any rules allowing sacrifice, there are laws for keeping farm animals in tenement courtyards. But they do.

But, you know, the cops in a dominican neighborhood might be wary of enforcing urban livestock domestication laws on the future sacrifice chicken of the crazy bruja. Their cruiser's brakes might fail or some shit.

Don't focus on the Michigan Muslims having it legally allowed, because its not like prohibitions stop all the West-African hybrids from doing it anyway. 

And if want a really disgusting West African/Catholic hybrid look into Palo Mayomb.  Its like the rotting flesh serial killer version of animal sacrifice altars. 

And I dont like sacrifice either. But its really not for religious "thou shalt not" reasons, but animal rights reasons.  I know they're mostly chickens, pigeons, and sometimes pigs, and goats, but i just feel bad they get fattened and cared for to be slaughtered for ANY reason.

Meh... at least they use the same type of stock animals I cant do anything about.

[Maxmars]

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In the culture of my youth, we believed that animals must be killed quickly and cleanly, or not only did the animal suffer, but the adrenalin surge spoiled the meat.   
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ETA:  I've never lived in a place where ritual animal killings happened.   No burnt offerings either, although when barbequing we often tipped a small piece of the meat into the coals.   That was a tip of the hat to the Shoshone culture which I grew up near.

Having always been a coastal inhabitant, I can say the idea that quick death was preferred also applies to fish.

Maybe it's just a fanciful urban legend... but I would think abject fear, pain, and existential annihilation would probably affect the meat somehow.

Fortunately, our paradigm of existence has always been to lean towards less cruelty... Unfortunately, it seems less and less a priority as more and more industrial 'efficiency' is sought.

So true of most all things....

More appropriately on-topic:

The practice, as an expression of spiritual faith, has always been protected.
Much to the chagrin of some very pissed off people.

[argentus]

Having always been a coastal inhabitant, I can say the idea that quick death was preferred also applies to fish.

Maybe it's just a fanciful urban legend... but I would think abject fear, pain, and existential annihilation would probably affect the meat somehow.

Fortunately, our paradigm of existence has always been to lean towards less cruelty... Unfortunately, it seems less and less a priority as more and more industrial 'efficiency' is sought.

So true of most all things....

More appropriately on-topic:

The practice, as an expression of spiritual faith, has always been protected.
Much to the chagrin of some very pissed off people.

I don't think there is any way to keep an aquatic creature free from fear and pain.   We are told the fish don't feel anything.   I think that is bullshit.  I would guess the only way to make it quick is to spear them.   I don't do it so much anymore, having grown elderly and all, but I still go out at night with a trusted friend to spear squabs (parrotfish) and in season, Spiney Lobsters.   They die fairly quickly by being impaled by two 3/8" prongs.  ...  ... or at least their struggles cease quickly.  

Fish caught by line fight.   You can bet they are freaked out and afraid.    When I freedive for conch, I kill them by putting them in the freezer.   I don't know it for a fact, but I think it kills them humanely, because they don't move a whit, whereas the traditional method of piercing the shell  and yanking them from it, they gyrate and flex for several minutes and only seem to die when their organs are sheared from the meat.  When I die, I expect I will get all the answers to questions like this I have asked.

[rickymouse]

Old news .... but I just found out about it.
Animal sacrifice and slaughter is allowed at home in part of Michigan.
It's a Muslim religious thing ... 

I've seen pictures of overseas with Muslims slaughtering animals in
the streets for Eid al-Adha.   Blood running deep in the streets all 
over the place, people running through it, terrified animals being 
butchered ... 

Now it's okay to engage in ritual slaughter in Hamtramck Michigan.   The state has the
right to run itself as it wishes ... states rights ... but I think it's awful.

Hamtramck City Council Approves Religious Animal Sacrifices and Slaughter at  Home

We sacrifice deer all the time up here in the U.P.  There is a season for that, it is only legal if it is within the season.  Road kill is not a sacrifice of an animal, but I know people who have sacrificed their cars to deer.

[Nerb]

The horror of slaughterhouses is bad enough,
but people with kitchen knives in backyards 
in neighborhoods hacking away at scared animals?
That's just wrong.

At least they know what they are eating.

[Bootless]

The practice, as an expression of spiritual faith, has always been protected.
Much to the chagrin of some very pissed off people.

Maybe protected sporadically.

It took the Supreme court in Church of the Lukumi Babalu Aye, Inc. v. Hialeah, 508 U.S. 520 (1993) to finally establish that forbidding the killing of an animal in a public or private ritual or ceremony, not for the primary purpose of food consumption, was unconstitutional.

That was after the District Court for the Southern District of Florida ruled in favor of the city in 1989, and the United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit affirmed that decision in 1991.

So it went to the Supreme Court.

Justice Anthony Kennedy stating in the decision, "religious beliefs need not be acceptable, logical, consistent or comprehensible to others in order to merit First Amendment protection".

[glen200376]

I read somewhere that the way they slaughter their animals results in less stress for the animal thereby better meat...Halal. It is also stated that the animals are treated more humanely before and during slaughter.

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"Some residents and animal rights advocates have expressed opposition to the ordinance changes, saying they will lead to animal cruelty and sanitation problems in Hamtramck, one of the most densely populated cities in Michigan. They said they worry about people being traumatized by seeing the throats of goats, lambs and cows being slit in backyards, with blood splattering and entrails falling out."

Maybe those residents need to first visit the horrific conditions some meat animals have to live under, then visit a regular slaughterhouse and then see the reality of their desire to eat meat.

Sound like those snowflakes/Karens need some lessons in reality.

What world do you live in?Your quote from a Muslim will say it's good for the animal and stress free.
Ridiculous, they cut the throat and let them slowly bleed to death.
Remember if they have had sex with the animal they can't eat it and have to give it to the next village to eat.
Caring for animals is not even a concept for these heathen desert demon worshippers.

[glen200376]

I actually am buying Halal meat from the grocery store and meat from my small town butcher as the meat comes directly from neighboring farms. I can tell you that I found that the Halal meat was better, I'll try to explain why. First it seems lighter for lack of a better word, lighter in taste as in no bitter aftertaste. I noticed the same thing when I switched over to organic tea, a lighter taste as if something bitter was no longer there.

So that's worth partaking in a religious offering to a desert demon or worse Satan?
I'd watch with that if I were you.
Life is fleeting,hell is for eternity.

[IDELB2006]

Old news .... but I just found out about it.
Animal sacrifice and slaughter is allowed at home in part of Michigan.
It's a Muslim religious thing ... 

I've seen pictures of overseas with Muslims slaughtering animals in
the streets for Eid al-Adha.   Blood running deep in the streets all 
over the place, people running through it, terrified animals being 
butchered ... 

Now it's okay to engage in ritual slaughter in Hamtramck Michigan.   The state has the
right to run itself as it wishes ... states rights ... but I think it's awful.

Hamtramck City Council Approves Religious Animal Sacrifices and Slaughter at  Home

To be fair, this goes beyond simple states rights. From your article, this is a constitutional right.

Ghalib and other supporters of the new ordinance say state and federal law protect their religious rights under the U.S. Constitution, noting a Supreme Court decision 30 years ago that prohibited city bans on animal sacrifice practiced by followers of the Santeria religion.

Animal sacrifice is allowed throughout the entire USA.

[SleipnirTheHorse]

they do this with chickens too in brooklyn
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yemWXhF92s]

Yeah there's plenty of jews who just use a potato,  also it's late in the Talmud meaning only wacky fundamentalist and such will actually do that and yes I suspect the area that's happening is filled with nutters, because, yes, as they say the Reform are lazy, the Conservatives are hazy, and Orthodox are crazy. 

So think about what the Ultra-Orthodox must be!