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And so it begins in the UK
#41
(04-16-2025, 10:52 AM)MrGashler77 Wrote: Back in the day we called them hermaphrodites.

I wouldn't like to say what some folk called them back in the day....
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#42
(04-16-2025, 11:24 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I wouldn't like to say what some folk called them back in the day....

Reasonable honestly.
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#43
(04-16-2025, 09:07 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: BBC News - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvgq9ejql39t
UK Supreme Court rules legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex - live updates - BBC News

What about men?
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#44
(04-16-2025, 01:54 PM)ArMaP Wrote: What about men?

The ruling seems to be that gender is binary, based on biological sex.
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#45
(04-16-2025, 01:54 PM)ArMaP Wrote: What about men?

That's a fairly fundamental question,
which could only be avoided intentionally (considering who's speaking)...
Being nosey... I would like to know why the specificity?

Shouldn't the affirmation be universal?...

Or am I considering this from the view point that
maybe they want more legal uncertainty, rather than less.

But, no... neither a subject of the crown, nor a citizen...
nor even of the legal community, so I must state clearly 

If seeming offensive to say, please consider these as perhaps ignorant observations,
rather than a judgmental criticism (as some people employ to 'throw a gauntlet.')
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#46
(04-16-2025, 02:18 PM)Maxmars Wrote: That's a fairly fundamental question,
which could only be avoided intentionally (considering who's speaking)...
Being nosey... I would like to know why the specificity?

Shouldn't the affirmation be universal?...

Or am I considering this from the view point that
maybe they want more legal uncertainty, rather than less.

But, no... neither a subject of the crown, nor a citizen...
nor even of the legal community, so I must state clearly 

If seeming offensive to say, please consider these as perhaps ignorant observations,
rather than a judgmental criticism (as some people employ to 'throw a gauntlet.')

The proceedings were focussed on the definition of a Woman, but the ruling confirms that both genders are based on biological sex, so, binary.

Nothing uncertain about it.
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#47
(04-16-2025, 02:34 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: The proceedings were focussed on the definition of a Woman, but the ruling confirms that both genders are based on biological sex, so, binary.

Nothing uncertain about it.

Litigiousness is not really a solution to a simple quandary.

Rather than affirm a universal standard... that any 'categorization' of a human is superfluous to the human condition they opted to punt.
In and of itself the distinction in law becomes the actual nexus of legal nonsense that serves only to propagate litigation.

Why not just affirm that "human" is the defining factor.. and gender, sex, or "not," is not justification for the law to control, or direct behavior.

But still, we elevate the problem by surrounding it with more legislation...
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#48
(04-16-2025, 03:26 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Litigiousness is not really a solution to a simple quandary.

Rather than affirm a universal standard... that any 'categorization' of a human is superfluous to the human condition they opted to punt.
In and of itself the distinction in law becomes the actual nexus of legal nonsense that serves only to propagate litigation.

Why not just affirm that "human" is the defining factor.. and gender, sex, or "not," is not justification for the law to control, or direct behavior.

But still, we elevate the problem by surrounding it with more legislation...

Here is the full Judgement.

My apologies for being an actual litigation lawyer.

https://supremecourt.uk/uploads/uksc_202...c48cee.pdf
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#49
You're case is rested.   Wink1

Perhaps my questions are better suited to your Gender Recognition Act of 2004.
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#50
(04-16-2025, 04:48 PM)Maxmars Wrote: You're case is rested.   Wink1

Perhaps my questions are better suited to your Gender Recognition Act of 2004.

No, this was about the Equality Act.
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