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(01-26-2026, 03:16 PM)Vermilion Wrote: The difference is that my speculation isn’t trying to erroneously affect the end results.
Yours is.
Your speculation was an attempt to create intent.
There is no greater intent than pulling a weapon on someone.
There literally is no level of semantics you can use to make it irrelevant if he pulled the weapon or not. You’re more upset with the person noting there is no evidence of that happening than the person who stated it as a matter of fact.
So I suppose I shall ask you, do you believe in accountability? Is it just OK to make up stuff or repeat them without verifying and refusing to share sources.
I think it’s telling that you’re upset with someone trying to keep the record set in the thread more than people just being careful about what they say as a matter of fact. But then again, facts don’t matter for a lot of people in politics.
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01-26-2026, 03:28 PM
This post was last modified: 01-26-2026, 03:32 PM by KTemplar. 
ANNEE, the angle I saw, he looked to be grabbing her by her clothing. It looked like he was attacking her to be honest.
These agents don’t have time to question everyone’s’ motives, and I’m sure they’d like to go home to their families, and they don’t know what kind of crazy their dealing with!
Again, if people want to protest (or get paid by corrupt agendas), why cant they protest peacefully?
They just look like paid attention seekers to me, and the whistles (grow the F up), this isn’t a kindergarten playground. Lunatics all of them!
Common sense people!
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01-26-2026, 03:33 PM
This post was last modified: 01-26-2026, 03:55 PM by UltraBudgie. 
(01-26-2026, 03:28 PM)KTemplar Wrote: ANNEE, the angle I saw, he looked to be grabbing her by her clothing. It looked like he was attacking her to be honest.
Yes that's what it looked like to me too. Clawing and grabbing at her, and she seemed to want him to get the heck away.
I couldn't figure it out, then I realized it might be a 'resistance' tactic: if one if you is being arrested, grab on to others into a sort of ratking blob that is harder for the police to peel an individual off and cuff. That would be a strategy to resist his arrest, not 'help' her.
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(01-26-2026, 03:28 PM)KTemplar Wrote: ANNEE, the angle I saw, he looked to be grabbing her by her clothing. It looked like he was attacking her to be honest.
These agents don’t have time to question everyone’s’ motives, and I’m sure they’d like to go home to their families.
Again, if people want to protest (or get paid by corrupt agendas), why cant they protest peacefully?
They just look like paid attention seekers to me, and the whistles (grow the F up), this isn’t a kindergarten playground.
Common sense people!
It should not have happened in the first place.
There was zero reason for this woman to be shoved. Zero reason for Pretti to be assassinated.
My biggest issue is putting "secret police" boots on the ground -- with obvious lack of training.
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(01-26-2026, 03:33 PM)ANNEE Wrote: It should not have happened in the first place.
There was zero reason for this woman to be shoved. Zero reason for Pretti to be assassinated.
My biggest issue is putting "secret police" boots on the ground -- with obvious lack of training.
Yes those people should have kept their distance and not interfered in a Fed apprehension.
I was taught from a very young age, you comply with police and treat them with respect. These people are not only rude, interfering in Federal apprehensions, But do they really have nothing better to do?
How do you know how much training these people have?
I really hope President Trump gets tougher on these idiots.
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01-26-2026, 03:40 PM
This post was last modified: 01-26-2026, 03:40 PM by RazorV66. 
(01-26-2026, 03:33 PM)ANNEE Wrote: It should not have happened in the first place.
There was zero reason for this woman to be shoved. Zero reason for Pretti to be assassinated.
My biggest issue is putting "secret police" boots on the ground -- with obvious lack of training.
You keep saying "lack of training"
Where's you proof of that?
And assassinated? That's bullshit
Charlie Kirk was assassinated, Trump was almost assassinated.
This paid agitator was NOT assassinated.
He should not have been carrying a gun in the process of committing a felony.
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(01-26-2026, 03:25 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Your speculation was an attempt to create intent.
There is no greater intent than pulling a weapon on someone.
There literally is no level of semantics you can use to make it irrelevant if he pulled the weapon or not. You’re more upset with the person noting there is no evidence of that happening than the person who stated it as a matter of fact.
So I suppose I shall ask you, do you believe in accountability? Is it just OK to make up stuff or repeat them without verifying and refusing to share sources.
I think it’s telling that you’re upset with someone trying to keep the record set in the thread more than people just being careful about what they say as a matter of fact. But then again, facts don’t matter for a lot of people in politics.
My speculation is in regards to his frame of mind.
We know his intent by his actions…
All of a sudden deciding to carry his pistol and three magazines to a peaceful protest, while leaving his ID and the very license he needs to even carry the pistol in public.
Law abiding citizens without an agenda don’t do that.
Frame of mind.
Why did a nurse, usually a job that smarter folks inhabit, do so many stupid things consecutively that ended up getting himself killed?
He essentially suicided by cop.
Accident or not it’s a hard pill to swallow for some, but stranger things have happened.
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(01-26-2026, 03:39 PM)KTemplar Wrote: Yes those people should have kept their distance and not interfered in a Fed apprehension.
I was taught from a very young age, you comply with police and treat them with respect. These people are not only rude, interfering in Federal apprehensions, But do they really have nothing better to do?
How do you know how much training these people have?
I really hope President Trump gets tougher on these idiots.
Well -- we're just not going to agree.
I've stated more than once -- there are other ways then sending -- bullying untrained enforcers that have caused more harm than their intent.
Those who choose this abusive violence -- its on you.
It's unnecessary -- you are choosing to support these brutal physical actions against citizens who get in your way.
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(01-26-2026, 03:40 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: You keep saying "lack of training"
Where's you proof of that?
Actions are self proof.
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