3rd shooting in Minnesota.

[Knows]

New video appears to contradict DHS narrative in Minneapolis ICE shooting

https://x.com/TheJFreakinC/status/201511...hooting%2F

Your video shows ICE telling him to get away from them and out of the road. Before anything happened.

[angelchemuel]

We have shared several angles from the shooting today which killed 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti in Minneapolis, Minnesota. As we know, we believe this is the clearest angle we have of the incident. Here is the video:

https://x.com/Osint613/status/2015278073483006298

This is the best video if seen so far.
Close and clear.

ETA: I just noticed it looks like Pretti is wearing a desert tan tactical or bulletproof vest under his jacket. Anybody else see it?

Yes, I spotted what looks like a flak jacket of some sort whan I watched the video over on Bitchute another poster (?) provided us with. This video you posted just confirms this in my view.
Rainbows
Jane

[David64]

As far as I'm concerned, if you shoot someone. you should be tried and suffer consequence. Because shooting someone is serious.

And self-defence does not undo the seriousness of shooting someone.



The USA is like a cowboy movie.

Figure it out.

So if someone kicks my door in and comes to harm me or my family and I shoot them, I should "suffer consequences" ?


Cowboy movie ?

[ElitePlebeian]

This military gestapo crap is unnecessary.

There are other ways.

Like what? I think the left just wants ICE out and continue letting in illegals for votes, so I doubt it.

[putnam6]

Checking the provenance of the pic and if it can be recreated, but

If the picture below is an accurate depiction, it clearly justifies a self-defense response

If Pretti had stopped resisting like Rambo at any moment in those 120-plus moments of his attempted detention,
he would still be here 


 

 
Andrew Branca Show

@TheBrancaShow


The video does not show an “unarmed Good Samaritan.”

It shows a chaotic physical struggle where a man later found to be armed intervenes,
is pepper-sprayed,
goes to the ground,
and is then actively wrestled as ICE agents move in to regain control.
As the suspect stands up during the struggle,
agents reasonably perceive a firearm coming into play
—and the first shot is fired.
Under settled self-defense law, officers are not required to wait until a gun is fully raised or fired.
Imminence includes the moment a weapon is accessed during resistance.

Freeze-frame activists keep asking “can you see the gun?
” That’s the wrong legal question.
The standard is reasonable perception in real time,
including shouted warnings, movement, and the dynamics of a fight.
This was a rapidly evolving use-of-force encounter, not an execution.

The law does not require officers to gamble with their lives.

[SteamyAmerican]

All that this thread and the one concerning Good’s death, is, that even here with the internet’s “curious and open-minded”, nuance is dissolved and party lines stay strong.

Did she hit the officer with her car or was she trying to leave? A violent leftist trying to murder a federal cop, or a poet and mother of three that got what was coming to her?

Wrong place, wrong time? Agent provocateur? Misguided patriot? Lover of illegals?

Same here. I’ve heard he had a phone with which he was filming. Maybe this has been discussed, debated, denied outright. I don’t know.

An American VA nurse is dead at the hands of the US government. Should he not have been there? Is letting women get thrown to the ground in front of you okay? Does context even matter at that point? What about your own wife, mother, daughter? 

Are ICE allowed to just stop anyone with melanin? Because it seems to be their MO. And too many here seem to be okay with that, or with the people trying to intervene be smeared and dismissed as rioters and troublemakers that deserve the death Uncle Sam is visiting on its own people while “trying to do the right thing”.

Anyway. My two pennies. Alas. As I mentioned before. Not taking into account only 3 more years to do it in and only 75k arrests, it’s gonna take about 300 dead Americans to get rid of the 20M illegals here at the current rate of “interdictions”.

Worth the trade? Is this fair? No comment from me. Shameful any way it gets diced. We shouldn’t even be in this shitty position is my take.

Again. Alas…

[SteamyAmerican]

 

Just gamble with the lives of others.

Got it.

It’s starting to make sense now why the most American 1A activity should be met with lethal force. No questions asked.

:/

[EXETER]

 These protestors have a history of interference and attacking officers. It takes a special kind of stupid to bring a firearm to an already volatile situation.

That’s kind of how I felt about Kyle Rittenhouse.

[UltraBudgie]

Like what? I think the left just wants ICE out and continue letting in illegals for votes, so I doubt it.

I don't think it's fair to call them "the left" any more.

Left and right refer to ideological alignment within the political system.

These are people who used to be on the left, but when they were unable to legally implement their radical political ideas, decided that overthrowing the system of law was justified. They use obstruction and deliberately evoke violence in an attempt to break the system, and call it "protest".

They are anarchists.

[SteamyAmerican]

I don't think it's fair to call them "the left" any more.

Left and right refer to ideological alignment within the political system.

These are people who used to be on the left, but when they were unable to legally implement their radical political ideas, decided that overthrowing the system of law was justified. They use obstruction and deliberately evoke violence in an attempt to break the system, and call it "protest".

They are anarchists.

Okey-doke. Speaking of nuance. Here we go.

If everyone that shows up, peaceful or not, for whatever reason is an anarchist.

Then every person to be deported is a baby-slaying drug fiend. Or something like that.

Right?

In other words, I don’t disagree entirely.

But to side with dog-killing ICE Barbie whenever she has to continue to say these Anarchists deserve the violence they perpetrate. I mean fuuuuuh.

Then ya got to hand it to all these American citizen Anarchists for calling out the Fascists.

Hey. I don’t make the rules. Turnabout and all…