3rd shooting in Minnesota.

[KrustyKrab]

Yeah and they keep calling us Nazis.

Nazis use to patrol the streets asking for people's papers just because they were out of their house.

Where have we seen that in the last few years.

In my best Horseshack …oh oh oh oh….  

Under Walz nonetheless.   Hypocrites the lot.  

[Vermilion]

Another HUGE @TheJusticeDept legal win in Minnesota just now: a Biden-appointed district judge denied Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison’s attempt to keep ICE out of Minnesota.

Neither sanctuary policies nor meritless litigation will stop the Trump Administration from enforcing federal law in Minnesota.

https://x.com/AGPamBondi/status/2017646363039715514

More winning.

[Oldcarpy2]

In my best Horseshack …oh oh oh oh….  

Under Walz nonetheless.   Hypocrites the lot.  
[Video: https://youtu.be/o0zeauprMJ0?si=5rgRuoaQ01IlCRBV]

So now your National Guard and PD are firing paint rounds at people standing in their porches?

Not even asking for their papers.

The rest of the World looks on in horror.

Seems just like Iran.

[Vermilion]

So now your National Guard and PD are firing paint rounds at people standing in their porches?

Not even asking for their papers.

The rest of the World looks on in horror.

Seems just like Iran.

That was the governor Walz sending his personal army out during Covid, because being outside with people during Covid killed grandma, or something.

[Oldcarpy2]

That was the governor Walz sending his personal army out during Covid, because being outside with people during Covid killed grandma, or something.

Oh, apologies.  My mistake.  I thought the video was current.

[KrustyKrab]

So now your National Guard and PD are firing paint rounds at people standing in their porches?

Not even asking for their papers.

The rest of the World looks on in horror.

Seems just like Iran.

That’s Walz’s thugs during Covid, nothing related to ICE.   It just makes his whining about ICE all that more hypocritical.

[DBCowboy]

That’s Walz’s thugs during Covid, nothing related to ICE.   It just makes his whining about ICE all that more hypocritical.

It was also Waltz that set up a snitch line so people could report other people who didn't wear masks or had people over to their homes.

Sounds pretty authoritarian to me.

[chr0naut]

It was also Waltz that set up a snitch line so people could report other people who didn't wear masks or had people over to their homes.

Sounds pretty authoritarian to me.

In other countries, they prevented the spread, and even eliminated the outbreaks, of that disease that has taken the lives of over a million US citizens. The USA had the power, the economy, the will, the education, and the technology to win against COVID-19, but instead, the USA was one of the worst affected in the world.

You see, things done as health and safety precautions provably didn't have 'political' outcomes.

This is shown by the fact that the USA went ahead and elected the same guy who stuffed up COVID response the first time. Even after the Reich-wing predicted that the left would take control for ever on the tails of the pandemic, it just didn't happen.

That's the thing about the USA's system when it was great - it allowed choice, it allowed difference. Many would say the USA absolutely celebrated diversity.

Extremists (on both sides) keep trying to eliminate choice. It's like they just don't get it that the loss of political choice is the loss of political liberty.

In regard to the topic of this thread, a lot of USA citizens choose not to blame the USA's woes on people who cross the Southern border without proper procedure. They are a tiny percentage of the whole population and are a tiny percentage of the problems.

While ever you guys blame a minority, you are letting a lot of of the crims; rapists, murderers, paedophiles, drug-peddlers and thieves, evade the focus of budget-starved law enforcement.

[DBCowboy]

In other countries, they prevented the spread, and even eliminated the outbreaks, of that disease that has taken the lives of over a million Americans. America had the power, the economy, the will, the education, and the technology to win against COVID-19, but instead, the USA was one of the worst affected in the world.

You see, things done as health and safety precautions provably didn't have 'political' outcomes.

This is shown by the fact that the USA went ahead and elected the same guy who stuffed up COVID response the first time. Even after the Reich-wing predicted that the left would take control for ever on the tails of the pandemic, it just didn't happen.

That's the thing about the American system when it was great - it allowed choice, it allowed difference. Many would say America absolutely celebrated diversity.

Extremists (on both sides) keep trying to eliminate choice. It's like they just don't get it that the loss of political choice is the loss of political liberty.

In regard to the topic of this thread, a lot of American citizens choose not to blame the USA's woes on people who cross the Southern border without proper procedure. They are a tiny percentage of the whole population and are a tiny percentage of the problems.

While ever you guys blame a minority, you are letting most of the crimes - rapists, murderers, pedos, drug-peddlers and thieves, evade the focus of budget-starved law enforcement.

Sorry but the rates of infection didn't differ from free states to states that had draconian restrictions.

So it was a failure of the evil communist left.

[chr0naut]

Sorry but the rates of infection didn't differ from free states to states that had draconian restrictions.

So it was a failure of the evil communist left.

In your country, the left did not have the Presidency or the Senate, or almost half the States. It is clear where the locus of control was at that time.

But other countries eliminated or vastly reduced the number of cases active in the general population and infection rates are only measured on new active cases.

'Case mortality' and 'infection mortality' are ratios only of those who were infected. They are measures of how the virus operates on a case by case basis. For countries who eliminated new cases, case mortality didn't just go down, there were no cases and there was no mortality from it.

In those countries that did effectively deal with the disease spread, numbers of infections went down or stopped. So, no infection rates where measurable where there were no new cases, this meant the new infections were zero for those periods.

This continued up until the pathogen mutated enough to achieve an infectiousness that was greater than the effectiveness of methods used to reduce infectious spread, i.e. after the Delta and subsequent strains, control over the numbers of new infections was lost, even for countries that had previously eliminated several outbreaks.

Those mutations arose stochastically, requiring a significant pool of hosts. Countries who eliminated or reduced numbers of active infected, reduced the pool for potential mutations to occur.

Those countries who didn't reduce spread or eliminate outbreaks, are to blame for the success of the mutations. The negligent countries, therefore, are to blame for the spread of disease virulent enough to exceed all control.

The infectiousness of the later mutations levelled the playing field, and made the disease able, in attrition, to exceed all the methods that had previously been successful.

Fortunately, alongside the increase in infectiousness, there has been a reduction in case mortality, and we have only God to thank for that, because there could have been more infectious AND more virulent strains.

A highly infectious and highly virulent disease (not necessarily even related to COVID-19), with a long incubation period may yet still arise, but hopefully, by combining methodologies, we can overcome this, too.

Also, I hope we can react against the disease, in future, rather than futzing around in a stupid political argument and useless blaming.