35,000 years ago....

[sahgwa]

Oh my.. 
Are you trying to dismiss a 100,000 year mistake of yours??

In a nutshell: yes.

Please study these maps and notice the lack of difference in regards to land position and most of the sea levels.

https://www.sealevelmap.io/

100k years is a nanosecond in geologic time.
That's all ! :)

[Extralien]

In a nutshell: yes.

Please study these maps and notice the lack of difference in regards to land position and most of the sea levels.
100k years is a nanosecond in geologic time.
That's all ! :)

Oh deary me.. you got off on the wrong foot didn't you?
I've no idea where you got this extra 100,000yr thing from..
You started it  :)

[sahgwa]

Oh deary me.. you got off on the wrong foot didn't you?
I've no idea where you got this extra 100,000yr thing from..
You started it  :)

I'll spell it out for you ,since it's your thread:  you are trying to say that aerial country/region shapes one can imagine seeing due to pareidolia in cave paintings are evidence of some preternatural cave-people's abilities in the realm of either true flight or spirit flight, or something to do with visits by aliens. You are not very clear on exactly what you are saying, but regardless of when these supposed 'flights' took place, my point is that the geographic shape of the Earth in those regions you point out, is basically the exact same now as it was back then, whether it was 35k years ago or (my error/typo) 135k years ago. It proves nothing other than seeing things in shapes that you want to.

[Extralien]

I'll spell it out for you

And as your understanding of the English language is a bit lacking, I'll translate.

"DENY IGNORANCE" 

All you've done so far is deny and ignored everything put before you except a "typo" as you now call it and the brave use of the word "pareidolia".

I wonder just how many "coincidences" of "Pareidolia" you'll need before you manage to open your eyes, take a look and re-consider everything you've been taught!

I'm quite amazed as to how some of the old ATS "bring-a-thread-down"ers migrated to here..

Even Leonardo Da Vinci knew what was going on.. 



And yes, somebody else found this rather striking resemblance below.. 
Which was also found in another of Da Vinc'is work..
Putting the pieces together yet?? 
Something has been deliberately hidden in this art using methods of over-laying images, only creating half or rotating others or just simply leaving breadcrumbs in order to get you on the hunt.. 
This is art with further intent. 
Would you be so kind as to work out the probability of ANY of this being found in ANY cave art ??
It would be litterally impossible to all of happened just by chance or pareidolia. 
I hope that clears things up a little and helps others understand the entire story.
I did explain that this was complex and covers various topics.
The whole point of a thread is to discuss topics.
I had to open somewhere.
But no.. pareidolia and erosion.. right.. 

[sahgwa]

And as your understanding of the English language is a bit lacking, I'll translate.

"DENY IGNORANCE" 

All you've done so far is deny and ignored everything put before you except a "typo" as you now call it and the brave use of the word "pareidolia".

I wonder just how many "coincidences" of "Pareidolia" you'll need before you manage to open your eyes, take a look and re-consider everything you've been taught!

I'm quite amazed as to how some of the old ATS "bring-a-thread-down"ers migrated to here..

Even Leonardo Da Vinci knew what was going on.. 

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...3138f0.jpg]

And yes, somebody else found this rather striking resemblance below.. 
Which was also found in another of Da Vinc'is work..
Putting the pieces together yet?? 
Something has been deliberately hidden in this art using methods of over-laying images, only creating half or rotating others or just simply leaving breadcrumbs in order to get you on the hunt.. 
This is art with further intent. 
Would you be so kind as to work out the probability of ANY of this being found in ANY cave art ??
It would be litterally impossible to all of happened just by chance or pareidolia. 
I hope that clears things up a little and helps others understand the entire story.
I did explain that this was complex and covers various topics.
The whole point of a thread is to discuss topics.
I had to open somewhere.
But no.. pareidolia and erosion.. right.. 

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...75f9f2.jpg]

I will do you the very large (perhaps undeserved) favour of ignoring your insult to my intelligence, regarding reading and writing, and just cut to the chase.

Spell it out for me then please, what exactly is being hidden in artwork ?
What am I missing, and what are you trying to explain or expose in these manipulated images , besides similarities in shapes, whether they be geographic, anatomic, or simple figures? 

You paste some images and state 'something has been deliberately hidden.'
 OK giving you again the benefit of the doubt, what is this 'something' ? 

Thank you kindly.

[Extralien]

I will do you the very large (perhaps undeserved) favour of ignoring your insult to my intelligence, regarding reading and writing, and just cut to the chase.

Spell it out for me then please, what exactly is being hidden in artwork ?
What am I missing, and what are you trying to explain or expose in these manipulated images , besides similarities in shapes, whether they be geographic, anatomic, or simple figures? 

You paste some images and state 'something has been deliberately hidden.'
 OK giving you again the benefit of the doubt, what is this 'something' ? 

Thank you kindly.

Yeah, you're not getting it.. 
I just did..
Did you not pick up on the keywords?
Did none of the images make you think there's a connection?
What you have done, is try to manipulate my words against me in order to provoke.

Back and forth going nowhere.. no genuine input into a discussion.
I'VE PLAYED YOUR GAMES BEFORE!!

Now get out of my thread and allow some intelligent discussion..
I've force fed you more than enough.

~SNIP~

[chr0naut]

Old meme, but...

Illuminati - confirmed!

[sahgwa]

Yeah, you're not getting it.. 
I just did..
Did you not pick up on the keywords?
Did none of the images make you think there's a connection?
What you have done, is try to manipulate my words against me in order to provoke.

Back and forth going nowhere.. no genuine input into a discussion.
I'VE PLAYED YOUR GAMES BEFORE!!

Now get out of my thread and allow some intelligent discussion..
I've force fed you more than enough.

~SNIP~

I was asking the questions in an attempt to lead to said 'intelligent discussion,' but as a 'former moderator' you are not being very forthcoming.
Thank you for your time and insults. 
Enjoy your thread.

[Darkorange]

to Extralien,

i am curious, what are you planning to do with your discovery or interpretation? Are you going to present it to scientific community? I would if was so sure of my findings. otherwise it looks like an attempt to create your own 'cult' and get some followers on DI...you put an effort here...although, i believe you are sincere at this moment.

My English is at not so great comprehension level, please be patient answering if you care at all.


cheers)

[Extralien]

to Extralien,

i am curious, what are you planning to do with your discovery or interpretation? Are you going to present it to scientific community? 

I have been trying to get this looked at, properly, since 2012.. 

There are several MASSIVE hurdles.
One of the major ones is how nobody wants to touch it!! 
If I am PROVEN to be correct, then it ends their careers, destroys everything they've been pushing (or strengthens it), re-writes history etc.!
Imagine if you were able to prove how and when, roughly, the ancient Egyptian, Sumerian and other cultures all started!!
Religions too..
Do you think that might just upset a lot of people?
Yes, I uderstand the "coincidence and pareidolia" side of it.. 
100% already been through all of that when I first found it all.

It's not just the academics that avoid it. I've tried all manner of fields, from Ufology to paranormal to asking proffesors in colleges.
Everywhere!!

I've even run it all through Grok, just out of pure curiosity .. 
Not just to test my theory, but also checking out Groks "AI" at the same time.

Grok, currently, has a habbit of pulling data from Smithsonian, or Harvard.. or the BBC!
Point here is that it was relying on data that has been corrupted, found to be wrong on many occasions and is 100% questionable on all levels right now.

Go look into Tartaria if you want to get to grips with how everything looks like it has been manipulated to hide an incredible truth.
Possibly something so awful that we all have amnesia.
Example, just how did millions of skeletons end up stacked in an orderly fashion below Paris, and MANY other cities, as we are now finding.
Lucius Aurelian and/or My Lunch Break on YouTube have videos on this.. 

So, with a little bit of "Grok, please ignore outside influences and just look at the art!"
It did.. 
and what a conversation it turned out to be.
Grok kept pushing me for more "evidence" to support my claims.
Every time I was able to provide a link or connection.

Here is its final response.