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2/27/26 Amb Huckabee Tells Americans in Israel to Get Out
#11
(02-27-2026, 03:21 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I agree they’re the only democracy in the region. I’m not sold that they’re some refuge for all religions though. A lot of the Arab countries around them have more Christians than they do.
They have more because they are bigger countries.   
But the Christians aren't always free to be Christians. 
Look at Saudi Arabia.
Also ... Israel is a refuge for gay/bi Muslims from Muslim countries/areas.
#12
(02-27-2026, 03:48 PM)J DOH Wrote: In "theory", "God" 's "Chosen People" "Are" / "should be" (allowed/forgiven/bless-ed as) the Sole arbiter of the use of "nukes".  Not claiming any facts other than simply stating that the "obvious" "social contract" among the Heavens and Earth-- IF such heirarchy exists and remains "aligned" with Order-- requires as much.

The reason they are called 'Gods Chosen People' is because the Christ is 'chosen by God' to come from them.   They, and the rest of us, still need nukes to defend ourselves.  God isn't magically going to smite anyone who attacks America.  We have to do it ourselves.
#13
How often have "nukes" been used "to defend ourselves"?

not trolling-- just trying to reiterate the point.
Slingshot, engage
#14
(02-27-2026, 03:51 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: They have more because they are bigger countries.   
But the Christians aren't always free to be Christians. 
Look at Saudi Arabia.
Also ... Israel is a refuge for gay/bi Muslims from Muslim countries/areas.

And yet we support Saudi Arabia, even after we protected them by keeping a chapter out of the 9/11 commission related to them.

Maybe Israel is more inviting of Christians and gay people. That still doesn’t change my other points, or justify why we should call them our closest ally. They’ve done nothing to prove they’re our closest ally.

The UK has proven to be far more of an ally when the going gets tough. We have more of a history with them, and even more of a diaspora of English lineage here… so more of a connection so to speak at an ethnic level.

I wish the best for Israel. Jews have gone through a lot of trials and tribulations in recent history. The US has the 2nd most amount of Jews outside of Israel, many of them prosper here. We helped create Israel and see them through their nations infancy. All that said, we have no treaties with them, they’ve taken the most aid of any country from the US, and their nation is younger than our president. I don’t see why we need to involve ourselves directly in their foreign policy, to the extent we’re literally putting a third of our navy there to shield them from aggression they seek.

Our nation has debt that will take generations to pay off, and their Middle East is no longer vital to our interests. It’s time we let the Middle East govern and figure out their own affairs.
#15
(02-27-2026, 03:59 PM)J DOH Wrote: How often have "nukes" been used "to defend ourselves"?

not trolling-- just trying to reiterate the point.

Twice.  
Both times against Japan which attacked us - WWII.
That's it.
Just the fact that we have them is 'defending ourselves'.
#16
[/sigh]
Slingshot, engage
#17
Do you think I am against nuclear weapons?
(I am not)

I was trying to illustrate the philosophical question/fact/"authority regarding "Who" retains the "right to Smite"... so to speak.

That aside-- are "preemptive threats" deemed to be legal/moral/righteous "self defense"?  By all players/persons?  If not, then who possesses that ultimate perogative? [hint]
Slingshot, engage
#18
FF, in case you misread/misinterpreted my posts (why you so defensive, Sis? Lol), I was reaffirming the stance of your implied sentiment, that, if anyone/body needs (or should be permitted) "nukes", it would "righteously" seem to be "God's Chosen People", no?
Slingshot, engage
#19
(02-27-2026, 02:53 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: Because they are a tiny democratic country that welcomes religious and social freedom, surrounded by angry non-democratic Muslim countries that blame Israel for every problem they have in their lives.
Lol. I'm not looking for a Wikipedia answer. I'm curious if they believe they are Gods chosen people and are actively trying to force prophecy, why the need for nuclear weapons? Does God have your back or not?? Are you doing what is required for God to have your back?? Are you worried and need a back up??

It's an interesting paradox of faith.
#20
(02-27-2026, 12:43 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: This is quite possibly the last opportunity Israel has to have America fight a war on their behalf.

Public sentiment is quickly flipping on Israel. If the right loses the midterms, it’s possible Trump won’t have the same latitude for something like this.

It’s unfortunate, but hopefully the end of a chapter where we for whatever reason have to prove how much we support a foreign nation so we don’t get accused of being antisemitic. A nation we hold no treaties with. All while we have to parrot “our greatest ally”, which I assume is a slap in the face to nations who have actually sent their soldiers to fight along side ours.


Well put CS.

Israel will kill the lights in the US before they ever relinquish their parasitic hold on this country.

Goyim don’t call the shots, dontchaknow….



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