Tasteless food

[andy06shake]

I imagine as we age, we lose some of the taste buds on our tongue.

In the same way we lose things like hearing and vision.

That may account for the change.

And may make food seem less flavorful.

[UltraBudgie]

When you wash celery, good stuff almost smells like black pepper, but most commercial stuff smells like bitter smelling or like malathion or organophosphates.  Yes, I grew up on a farm and know the smells of many of the chemicals they used.

the bitter is likely because the celery isn't blanched, which means covering the stalks from light for the last few weeks of the growing which causes bitters and stuff to move out of them. maybe they've figured out some chemical way to do that now? sigh they probably have and it sucks. i don't kow what malathion is and i don't want to know do i? anyway veggies heavy in water like tomatoes and celery are where organic really matters the most but i'm no expert just based on what i've sort of learned

tasteless tomatoes sigh

[BeyondKnowledge]

So why are people getting fat?  They have to eat twice as much to feel satisfied,

Exactly. We are given genetically modified or processed foods that we are told are healthier for us. Mainly less fat or less sugar. What is actually happening is they are removing what makes our bodies satisfied. We eat more because we don't feel that we have eaten what we need in the amount of food we used to consume. All the unnecessary neutrants are consumed trying to satisfy a craving that is not allowed to be satisfied.

What they say is healthier food is making us fat.

[sahgwa]

hello there is food that is tasteless that didn't use to be!

it used to have zing and aftertaste and be satisfying in way that is not any more

now why is this

well here is expanations theories any why you share your opinion:

- it is the covid it did something
- it is frankenfood and capitalisms
- we mandela effect jumped to other timeline with bland food
- it is drugs they put in to make unsaisfy and eat more so fat and sell drugs
- it is simulation like in matrix they couldn't make chicken

now perhaps the covid no taste thing is coverup for something else! oh it could also be some kind of warfare?

what, do you think and your experience?

also there is company sysco that has all restraunt food supply has anyone looked in to them

We too notice this.
Even when we buy organic.

The biggest thing I can think of is for produce the soil is depleted.  There are not enough minerals and they do not let fields lie fallow like they used to, hence no flavour in those tomatoes or cucumbers.

As far as meat, if you get the free range non GMO non whatever chickens it does taste a hell of a lot better.
Its just so pricey.
Like there are local ranches that sell here and the flavour is x 10. but so is the price :(

[sahgwa]

The taste amazing explosion difference between home grown tomatoes in the planter versus even farmer market organic, was night and day.
I wish we could grow more of our own stuff.  We only have a patio though.

[rickymouse]

Exactly. We are given genetically modified or processed foods that we are told are healthier for us. Mainly less fat or less sugar. What is actually happening is they are removing what makes our bodies satisfied. We eat more because we don't feel that we have eaten what we need in the amount of food we used to consume. All the unnecessary neutrants are consumed trying to satisfy a craving that is not allowed to be satisfied.

What they say is healthier food is making us fat.

Well, lots of more natural foods are healthy to eat, but it seems the ones they push as super foods can cause some issues if eaten more than just occasionally.  Too much of a good thing can be bad.


And yes, they keep saying foods are healthy because they have less sugar or fat...but what are they comparing it to.  Often they are comparing it to another unhealthy ultraprocessed food, and yes, it may be a little better than garbage, but it is still garbage.  

Some of the chemicals they are putting on food to give a longer shelflife to fresh foods actually make it so we cannot digest them properly and get nutrition from them.  Which means we eat more, absorb the sugar molecules, and poop out all the nutrients.  Some enzymes in fruits like pineapple destroy the enzyme amylase which helps us digest veggies properly.  Bromelain is a proteinase, and proteinases help to digest proteins, but lots of enzymes are protein compounds too.  Avacado destroys diamine oxidase in the gut, which is used to break down histamines in the digestive tract, so it increases histamine levels in the body causing people to need medicines to stop asthma and other histamine caused allergic reactions to food they are not usually severely intolerant to.  MAO can break down histamines along with other tyramine chemistries in the blood and brain, but if you overload that pathway by increasing histamines it can cause migraines too.

I'd swear that the people writing about all these super foods on the internet and talking about them in health oriented TV shows need to get their head examined.  People who have problems with creating DAO genetically might not have a problem with avacado, but those who do  make the enzyme will most likely become intolerant to foods they were not intolerant to before.

Also, Tomatoes, they trigger a release of histamines from muscle stores increasing histamines in the blood.  There are a couple of foods with that action, and different varieties of tomatoes have less or more of that chemistry.  So, a person who eats tomatoes might experience asthma symptoms or like me hives when they eat tomatoes  I think that the chemistry might be in the tomatine chemical in tomatoes.  It is a plant defense chemistry.  I can eat tomatoes once a week with no problem, but if I eat even two meals with tomato in them, I get hives and a weird intestinal issue.  I thought it was rare, but evidently a real lot of people even in Italy are intolerant to tomatoes...so this is not rare.  I know lots of people that don't eat tomatoes, and lots of them that do....I would guess about forty percent of people I know avoid tomatoes.  Again, tomatoes were considered a super food for a while...how many doctor visits and medical prescriptions came from people eating something someone said was great for you.

[rickymouse]

The taste amazing explosion difference between home grown tomatoes in the planter versus even farmer market organic, was night and day.
I wish we could grow more of our own stuff.  We only have a patio though.

Tomatoes grow great in planters on the patio.  So do super hot chili peppers.  If they get bottom rot, just add some egg shells to the soil, lack of calcium causes that.  Don't add too much miracle grow though, you get way too much plant and lots of tomatoes, and up here, many of the tomatoes don't have enough to ripen because summers are shorter in the U.P of Michigan.  Frost messes up the tomatoes if they get hit, have to cover the plants if frost is predicted.  The secret ingredient in miracle grow is molybdenum which is needed in some plant chemistries, a tiny amount goes a long way.  I am sure you can find a way to add natural molybdenum chemistries to the soil....rice is high in it I think, but it has to be broken down by bacteria.  I just bought a bag of sodium molybdate to add some to the garden for the nitrogen fixation properties and sulfur plant needs.  But you can also get some molybdenum supplements and stick one pill in the pot or disolve in the water I suppose.  Ammonium molybdate works well too.  A drop or two  in a watering can is plenty.

Or just buy miracle grow and add some to a watering can one watering a week...the rest just use water.

[sahgwa]

Tomatoes grow great in planters on the patio.  So do super hot chili peppers.  If they get bottom rot, just add some egg shells to the soil, lack of calcium causes that.  Don't add too much miracle grow though, you get way too much plant and lots of tomatoes, and up here, many of the tomatoes don't have enough to ripen because summers are shorter in the U.P of Michigan.  Frost messes up the tomatoes if they get hit, have to cover the plants if frost is predicted.  The secret ingredient in miracle grow is molybdenum which is needed in some plant chemistries, a tiny amount goes a long way.  I am sure you can find a way to add natural molybdenum chemistries to the soil....rice is high in it I think, but it has to be broken down by bacteria.  I just bought a bag of sodium molybdate to add some to the garden for the nitrogen fixation properties and sulfur plant needs.  But you can also get some molybdenum supplements and stick one pill in the pot or disolve in the water I suppose.  Ammonium molybdate works well too.  A drop or two  in a watering can is plenty.

Or just buy miracle grow and add some to a watering can one watering a week...the rest just use water.

Cheers, mate.  Almost planting season.  After our short winter.

[rickymouse]

Cheers, mate.  Almost planting season.  After our short winter.

We usually get over a hundred cherry tomatoes on the two or three plants together in a fourteen inch diameter planter.  I put one of the higher big metal tapered tomato plant supporter in the pot, and keep the plants going up inside it.  Branches and tomatoes hang out all over, and I tie the tops of the plants to the deck railing or hang it over it.  One branch of one plant will have like fifteen to twenty cherries on it.  Three planters gets us more cherries than we can use between the middle of july through september, usually give some to the kids. 

That hundred cherries to a planter does not include the ripe cherry tomatoes the chippies are eating now.  I will leave one on the branch to ripen a little more and there is a red faced chippy chewing on it within a day.  They must eat a hundred cherries on top of what we get....they seem to tolerate them ok, they must be listening to these health nuts.

The chippies also eat about a quarter of our super hot chili peppers...I think it is a guy thing, daring their friends to eat them....half a chili pepper on the ground lots of times and it is common to see a chippy in the plant tearing one off or carrying one away, green or red, they take them.  I can't even eat them like that, I put half of one in a big pot of soup to give the soup flavor and remove them when it starts getting too hot. 

Those chippies got a lot of balls, must be Mexican immigrant chippies.  They hibernate for the winter, so ICE does not bother them.

[sahgwa]

We usually get over a hundred cherry tomatoes on the two or three plants together in a fourteen inch diameter planter.  I put one of the higher big metal tapered tomato plant supporter in the pot, and keep the plants going up inside it.  Branches and tomatoes hang out all over, and I tie the tops of the plants to the deck railing or hang it over it.  One branch of one plant will have like fifteen to twenty cherries on it.  Three planters gets us more cherries than we can use between the middle of july through september, usually give some to the kids. 

That hundred cherries to a planter does not include the ripe cherry tomatoes the chippies are eating now.  I will leave one on the branch to ripen a little more and there is a red faced chippy chewing on it within a day.  They must eat a hundred cherries on top of what we get....they seem to tolerate them ok, they must be listening to these health nuts.

The chippies also eat about a quarter of our super hot chili peppers...I think it is a guy thing, daring their friends to eat them....half a chili pepper on the ground lots of times and it is common to see a chippy in the plant tearing one off or carrying one away, green or red, they take them.  I can't even eat them like that, I put half of one in a big pot of soup to give the soup flavor and remove them when it starts getting too hot. 

Those chippies got a lot of balls, must be Mexican immigrant chippies.  They hibernate for the winter, so ICE does not bother them.

Thats an amazing yield. Our planters are like the plastic long rectangles. only like 5 or 7 inches of soil dep tho.  Last summer was terrible. mostly stunted barren plants. I think the seeds were too old. 

What is a chippie?