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Animal Farm
#21
(12-29-2025, 06:50 PM)DontTreadOnMe Wrote: No offense to the book, but from what I heard, they played fast and loose with the moral of the story.
In all my years on earth, I have not heard the book being called a COMEDY.

I became curious and looked into the trailer for the new version....it's geared toward family audiences and mainstreamed to the "sensitive" folk.

Heavy comedic elements, jokes and lighthearted portrayals and the introduction of things that stray so far from Orwell it's quite literally Newspeak.
"Gradually I began to intellectually reject some of the delusionally influenced lines of thinking which had been characteristic of my orientation. This began, most recognizably, with the rejection of politically-oriented thinking as essentially a hopeless waste of intellectual effort." ~ John Forbes Nash
#22
(12-29-2025, 07:09 PM)GENERAL EYES Wrote: I became curious and looked into the trailer for the new version....it's geared toward family audiences and mainstreamed to the "sensitive" folk.

Heavy comedic elements, jokes and lighthearted portrayals and the introduction of things that stray so far from Orwell it's quite literally Newspeak.

Yes, the perfect propaganda piece, as many today would rather watch a movie than read an actual book.
And they will never know of the author's intent.
#23
(12-29-2025, 09:40 AM)LightAngel Wrote: Animal Farm still matters because it shows how power can change people. It reminds us to stay alert, question our leaders, and protect what we believe in.

If we don't, even our best dreams can slowly disappear.

The animals didn't fail because they were stupid. They failed because they trusted the wrong leaders.

Their hope was taken advantage of.

We need honest, responsible leaders who truly care about others, or the same problems will keep happening.

I will never read an online version because I'm afraid the message will be that some animals ARE more equal than others.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
#24
(12-29-2025, 09:40 AM)LightAngel Wrote: Animal Farm still matters because it shows how power can change people. It reminds us to stay alert, question our leaders, and protect what we believe in.

If we don't, even our best dreams can slowly disappear.

The animals didn't fail because they were stupid. They failed because they trusted the wrong leaders.

Their hope was taken advantage of.

We need honest, responsible leaders who truly care about others, or the same problems will keep happening.

I think its use wants to be irony. 

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#25
(12-29-2025, 10:05 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Excellent book!
That and 1984.



Love Animal Farm. And it’s prescient for sure.

ive thought for awhile now we’re in a Venn diagram of 1984, Brave New World, and Children of Men (a movie worth watching).
#26
(12-29-2025, 11:17 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: I tried.   Read like 50 pages and thought ... WTF?
Gave up too.
Really thought it was dumb and confusing.



Had the same reaction to the Bible. Figured if it weren’t for me I probably wouldn’t enjoy the Koran nor the Torah/Talmud either.

*shrugs
#27
(12-29-2025, 07:26 PM)DontTreadOnMe Wrote: Yes, the perfect propaganda piece, as many today would rather watch a movie than read an actual book.
And they will never know of the author's intent.

Especially because the new movie rewrites the original book. In the new movie Capitalism is the enemy of the people and Marxism is the hero. It's a complete and total fraud, but only people who have read the original will know. In a sense it's very 1984.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
#28
Wasn't Orwell warning about Fabian socialists in his book '1984'.

It certainly looks like it.
#29
(12-30-2025, 03:45 AM)Karl12 Wrote: Wasn't Orwell warning about Fabian socialists in his book '1984'.

It certainly looks like it.

I meant in the governments "big brother" messaging, but yes bloodless revolutions to install democratic socialism like what we are seeing in New York City, and I believe the rest of the world has already bent the knee to it.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
#30
(12-29-2025, 10:04 AM)LightAngel Wrote: I wouldn't call them stupid, they were more naive.

The book shows us that revolutions fail not when our ideals are wrong, but when our memory erodes.

They lose their freedom not because of force alone.

But because they forget what freedom once meant.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."