The price of peas

[FlyersFan]

Does it say on the bags what the origin is? 

I just went and pulled one out of the freezer.
The only location on them is .... Distributed by: CONAGRA Brands Chicago IL 60654.
That's why I figured they are American peas.
(But I could be wrong about that)

[FlyersFan]

So I asked Google AI where Birdseye gets it's peas.
It said primarily the UK.
They are frozen in the UK and shipped frozen to America?
Well .. if so .. a tariff would apply.
But the tariff on food from the UK is only %10 according to Google AI.
So that doesn't explain the more than double cost in a year.

[Vermilion]

It seems the tariffs on peas aren’t really a thing considering they are only…

.5 cents to 2.8 cents per kilogram(2.2 pounds)

https://www.trade.gov/sites/default/file...ods%29.pdf
Page 26

[andy06shake]

A year ago a small package of Birdseye microwave peas was $1.09.
Today I went grocery shopping and the same package is $2.49.

The price of all the groceries is going up and up.
Doesn't matter if it's a Democrat or Republican in office ...
it's not changing the price of anything.   

What can possibly cause peas to more than double in cost in a year?
Energy hasn't gone up.   Tariffs don't affect peas.   

Insanity.

I grow my own in summer.

Love peas straight from the pod.

But yeah, that cost is insane for what i assume is frozen peas.

[Maxmars]

It seems the tariffs on peas aren’t really a thing considering they are only…

.5 cents to 2.8 cents per kilogram(2.2 pounds)

https://www.trade.gov/sites/default/file...ods%29.pdf
Page 26

Oh..but then there's the cost of the 'feelings' of people who speculate, and the added math work,
The marketers "suffer"  a .5 cent to 2.8 percent 'tax' and we pay 15 to 25% more... makes perfect sense.

Everyone uses the same excuse of tariffs

Why aren't we paying ALL their tax burdens then? 
It appears they are free to drop them on the rest of us at will.

[Vermilion]

It’s possible that the pea farmers are having to increase prices due to not having the slave labor they used to have.
US exports more peas than it imports.
If your business model revolves around cheating by hiring slave labor illegals, maybe it’s not the best business model and the market will sort you out.

[Oldcarpy2]

I grow my own in summer.

Love peas straight from the pod.

But yeah, that cost is insane for what i assume is frozen peas.

Me too.
Easy peasy to grow.

Just need some twiggy pea sticks to support them.

[Maxmars]

It’s possible that the pea farmers are having to increase prices due to not having the slave labor they used to have.
US exports more peas than it imports.
If your business model revolves around cheating by hiring slave labor illegals, maybe it’s not the best business model and the market will sort you out.

But the majority of the pea produced in the US is for major name brands... who never seem to get accused of slavish labor conditions for their workers... only the private farmers who desperately need any edge to compete with the monster "Big" agro... seem to employ this tactic...

And I remembered,

Unless I'm reading this wrong, it looks like the US imports more peas than it exports. So, tariffs will influence the price increases. 

https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-p...porter/usa

I now wonder if we actually know for sure about where and how these peas are moved around the market.

And I think most agree... the price hikes are largely profiteering elements of the 'market.' 50% middleman.

There really is no math to explain how any x% tariff should translate to increased profit... but it always does.

[SomeStupidName]

It’s possible that the pea farmers are having to increase prices due to not having the slave labor they used to have.
US exports more peas than it imports.
If your business model revolves around cheating by hiring slave labor illegals, maybe it’s not the best business model and the market will sort you out.

That's right and stuff is just going to cost a little more and with corrected cost we can help bring equality with our equity for all you liberals out there.

[Ray1990]

So I asked Google AI where Birdseye gets it's peas.
It said primarily the UK.
They are frozen in the UK and shipped frozen to America?
Well .. if so .. a tariff would apply.
But the tariff on food from the UK is only %10 according to Google AI.
So that doesn't explain the more than double cost in a year.

We had a really dry Spring that would've affected peas but looking at the price per tonne over the last 2 years they've actually went down 10-20% depending on the type.

The market is apparently oversaturated which fertilizer prices would've played a part in since peas are nitrogen fixers and generally don't need supplementing, it sounds like price gauging but would be difficult to tell since UK farmers tend to work contracts and with the weather this year I'd imagine high grade peas for human consumption would've suffered heavily.

There's just too many variables to give a definitive answer, from CO2 costs to transport costs, tariffs and the global market, the price the retailer sourced them at to the price Birdseye paid the farmers, it all effects the price. More than double in price sounds ridiculous from what I'm gathering though.