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(03-23-2026, 03:42 AM)Knows Wrote: I don't have any reason to quit the gum or patches. I have proven It isn't addictive. No withdrawal symptoms. I'm completely confident. I'm not going to join in on the delusion that nicotine is somehow dangerous. I'm taking 2mg today just for the hell of it.
I think I'll start taking 2mg once per day if I feel like it. Instead of 2mg twice per day. Could be a build up in your system over time. Not taking nicotine at all because of made up and disproven nonsense, is actually foolish. Everyone should have some nicotine gum on hand.
In your head, I'm sure you have proven lots of things. Knows.
In reality im apt to ponder not so much.
Good luck...
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03-23-2026, 05:32 AM
This post was last modified: 03-23-2026, 05:34 AM by quintessentone. 
(03-23-2026, 03:42 AM)Knows Wrote: I don't have any reason to quit the gum or patches. I have proven It isn't addictive. No withdrawal symptoms. I'm completely confident. I'm not going to join in on the delusion that nicotine is somehow dangerous. I'm taking 2mg today just for the hell of it.
I think I'll start taking 2mg once per day if I feel like it. Instead of 2mg twice per day. Your system doesn't require Nicotine every single day. Best to take a few days off from it per week. Not taking nicotine at all because of made up and disproven nonsense, is actually foolish. Everyone should have some nicotine gum on hand.
Are you saying you are not getting the dopamine rush from the patches?
Let's see what happens 2-3 days (in your case a little longer) after you totally quit the patches whether or not you notice and want/need the dopamine rushes your body has been accustomed to feeling.
Let us know if you get cranky afterwards.
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(03-23-2026, 05:32 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Are you saying you are not getting the dopamine rush from the patches?
Let's see what happens 2-3 days (in your case a little longer) after you totally quit the patches whether or not you notice and want/need the dopamine rushes your body has been accustomed to feeling.
Let us know if you get cranky afterwards.
Im mean, there are words on the side of the packet.
Required by law.
That clearly state "Nicotine Gum is highly addictive."
The same as it does on a packet of fags.
Or a vape juice container.
But know, know better...
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(03-23-2026, 05:32 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Are you saying you are not getting the dopamine rush from the patches?
Let's see what happens 2-3 days (in your case a little longer) after you totally quit the patches whether or not you notice and want/need the dopamine rushes your body has been accustomed to feeling.
Let us know if you get cranky afterwards.
I quit for 6 days. And there was no withdrawals period. Withdrawals are always strongest on the 1st day. So it is verified that Dr Ardis was right. You and others were deceived.
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(03-23-2026, 05:53 AM)Knows Wrote: I quit for 6 days. And there was no withdrawals period. Withdrawals are always strongest on the 1st day. So it is verified that Dr Ardis was right. You and others were deceived.
It's a fact that not all people become addicted to nicotine, however most people do become addicted if they started using while young, while their brain was still developing . You may be the 1/3 of people who fall into a that certain category of not becoming addicted, so your understanding of nicotine addiction may be flawed.
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(03-23-2026, 05:58 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It's a fact that not all people become addicted to nicotine, however most people do become addicted if they started using while young, while their brain was still developing . You may be the 1/3 of people who fall into a that certain category of not becoming addicted, so your understanding of nicotine addiction may be flawed.
Or Dr Ardis ""understanding"" of nicotine may be just complete and utter boll@cks.
Again, the fella is a modern-day snakeoil salesman, Quint.
He's there to sell powders, pills, and potions.
If in doubt, well, look at where his podium and platform are for a start.
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03-23-2026, 06:36 AM
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(03-23-2026, 06:14 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Or Dr Ardis ""understanding"" of nicotine may be just complete and utter boll@cks.
Again, the fella is a modern-day snakeoil salesman, Quint.
He's there to sell powders, pills, and potions.
If in doubt, well, look at where his podium and platform are for a start.
The Maga Institute Podcast speaking about the Covid19 vaccine - Episode 114 - they say that RFK Jr. is badmouthing Dr. Ardis. They specifically mention everything regarding this 'venom' peptide comparison is only an unproven hypothesis. Some say they think he is right about the venom but wrong about the vector - still - all hypothesis nothing proven.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0T0CRDdJymCGExehsTy2aE
Fact checked -
https://www.factcheck.org/person/bryan-ardis/
" Bryan Ardis' claim that snake venom contains the same enzyme found in COVID-19 vaccines is false. - Ardis falsely claimed that L-amino-acid oxidase (LAAO), present in snake venom, is also in COVID-19 vaccines and increases miscarriage risk.
- Scientific evidence and fact-checks confirm that LAAO is not present in any authorized COVID-19 vaccines, and no snake venom is used in vaccine production.
- The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) lists all vaccine ingredients, which do not include LAAO or any venom components.
- A study Ardis referenced involved secreted phospholipase A2 group IIA (sPLA2-IIA), an enzyme produced by the human body during severe COVID-19, which has some structural similarity to a protein in snake venom but is not the same and is not in the vaccines.
- Multiple fact-checking organizations, including Reuters, PolitiFact, and Health Feedback, have debunked these claims as baseless and misleading."
https://science.feedback.org/review/covi...tor-bryan-
Indeed, Ardis certainly has a lot of products for sale.
As for nicotine science, it's all out there for anyone to study for themselves.
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(03-23-2026, 06:36 AM)quintessentone Wrote: The Maga Institute Podcast speaking about the Covid19 vaccine - Episode 114 - they say that RFK Jr. is badmouthing Dr. Ardis. They specifically mention everything regarding this 'venom' peptide comparison is only an unproven hypothesis. Some say they think he is right about the venom but wrong about the vector - still - all hypothesis nothing proven.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0T0CRDdJymCGExehsTy2aE
Fact checked -
https://www.factcheck.org/person/bryan-ardis/
"Bryan Ardis' claim that snake venom contains the same enzyme found in COVID-19 vaccines is false. - Ardis falsely claimed that L-amino-acid oxidase (LAAO), present in snake venom, is also in COVID-19 vaccines and increases miscarriage risk.
- Scientific evidence and fact-checks confirm that LAAO is not present in any authorized COVID-19 vaccines, and no snake venom is used in vaccine production.
- The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) lists all vaccine ingredients, which do not include LAAO or any venom components.
- A study Ardis referenced involved secreted phospholipase A2 group IIA (sPLA2-IIA), an enzyme produced by the human body during severe COVID-19, which has some structural similarity to a protein in snake venom but is not the same and is not in the vaccines.
- Multiple fact-checking organizations, including Reuters, PolitiFact, and Health Feedback, have debunked these claims as baseless and misleading."
https://science.feedback.org/review/covi...tor-bryan-
Indeed, Ardis certainly has a lot of products for sale.
As for nicotine science, it's all out there for anyone to study for themselves.
I think I've presented Knows with a fact check on the fella before.
Again, I don't doubt nicotine has potential in certain areas.
But it is also highly addictive, and there is no real doubt about that fact.
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03-26-2026, 03:40 AM
This post was last modified: 03-26-2026, 03:47 AM by Knows. 
(03-23-2026, 05:58 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It's a fact that not all people become addicted to nicotine, however most people do become addicted if they started using while young, while their brain was still developing . You may be the 1/3 of people who fall into a that certain category of not becoming addicted, so your understanding of nicotine addiction may be flawed.
I don't believe you. Sounds like made up nonsense.
All the animal tests proved they couldn't get the animals addicted to the nicotine. If the animals had a choice between water with some nicotine. Or just plain water. They always chose plain water. My experiment verified it. It's documented. They put other ingredients into the tobacco products to get people addicted. By itself. Nicotine isn't addictive. Or a very weak addiction.
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03-26-2026, 08:51 AM
This post was last modified: 03-26-2026, 08:53 AM by Kurokage. 
(03-23-2026, 05:32 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Are you saying you are not getting the dopamine rush from the patches?
Let's see what happens 2-3 days (in your case a little longer) after you totally quit the patches whether or not you notice and want/need the dopamine rushes your body has been accustomed to feeling.
Let us know if you get cranky afterwards.
I think some are so far gone that I'm sure they'd make up their 'facts' just to try to prove a point. Hell, it's what they've learned to do from the 'hero's' they worship!
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