Evil is not the Opposite of Good, it's the Opposite of Truth

[andy06shake]

Yeah ... but everything having to feed off other living things and make them die ... If there is a God that created all this it kinda makes you wonder what was going on in His head when he came up with that as His plan for things.  (no I'm not judging God)

Cause and effect being the colour of the day in our macro realm, how else would it work?

Change, at its core, is transformation through loss.

I get where you are coming from, all the same, and in a perfect universe....

But in this one, for anything to become, something else must unbecome.

[FlyersFan]

But in this one, for anything to become, something else must unbecome.

Isn't that kinda twisted?
It's not the set up I would have picked if I were in charge.
(again .. not judging God .. just an observation)

[andy06shake]

Isn't that kinda twisted?
It's not the set up I would have picked if I were in charge.
(again .. not judging God .. just an observation)

I suggest reality is kind of twisted flyers. 

Think about it, how else would change take place without death and entropy occurring?

God's maybe just working with the tools he had available.

Or rather, the universal constants that were at hand. 

As to judging God, well, he will judge you, or so im led to believe.

If we are made in his image....

[IgnorantGod]

Cause and effect being the colour of the day in our macro realm, how else would it work?

Change, at its core, is transformation through loss.

I get where you are coming from, all the same, and in a perfect universe....

But in this one, for anything to become, something else must unbecome.

Just like atoms that forms molecules. Then they disassemble and reassemble with other atoms, yet there are no 'loss' in the change itself (except in energy whereas there may be a loss/gain within the specific context of the atoms/molecular formations, without taking into account the environment).

And then, if scientists are right, the 'macro world' is 99% empty space, since atoms are so. What we perceive as solid is simply a "clever magic trick" so that it is easier to interact with the 'world' at our 'scale'.

As for evil, I find it hard to believe in a 'cosmic karma balance' or something. Well, foremostly because the universe seems fine with human eradicating other species, killing and preying on each other, and so on. And if there's a reason to life, why even allow it to begin with? On the other hand, if it is part of a greater scheme, then how is evil inherently evil?

Seems contradictory to me, but in any case, I'm fine with it. As a personal side note, I'd definitely prefer to leave me R.I.P. than throw me in 'eternal suffering' (whatever that means) after I die, but well, it'll be what it'll be I guess.

[andy06shake]

Just like atoms that forms molecules. Then they disassemble and reassemble with other atoms, yet there are no 'loss' in the change itself (except in energy whereas there may be a loss/gain within the specific context of the atoms/molecular formations, without taking into account the environment).

And then, if scientists are right, the 'macro world' is 99% empty space, since atoms are so. What we perceive as solid is simply a "clever magic trick" so that it is easier to interact with the 'world' at our 'scale'.

As for evil, I find it hard to believe in a 'cosmic karma balance' or something. Well, foremostly because the universe seems fine with human eradicating other species, killing and preying on each other, and so on. And if there's a reason to life, why even allow it to begin with? On the other hand, if it is part of a greater scheme, then how is evil inherently evil?

Seems contradictory to me, but in any case, I'm fine with it. As a personal side note, I'd definitely prefer to leave me R.I.P. than throw me in 'eternal suffering' (whatever that means) after I die, but well, it'll be what it'll be I guess.

"Que sera sera." 

Best to hedge one's bet i suppose.

[Bootless]

It isn't too late to remember life.



Terry Jacks - Seasons In The Sun

I looked it up in Wikipedia

Seasons in the Sun is an English-language adaptation of the 1961 Belgian song Le Moribond ("The Dying Man") by singer-songwriter Jacques Brel, with lyrics rewritten in 1963 by singer-poet Rod McKuen, depicting a dying man's farewell to his loved ones.
 
...it tells the story of a man dying of a broken heart, as he bids farewell first to his close friend Emile, then to a priest, followed by an acquaintance named Antoine, and finally to his wife, who has cheated on him numerous times with Antoine. Despite being aware of Antoine's role as his wife's lover, he wishes him no ill and instead asks him to take care of her. American Rod McKuen translated the lyrics into English. In 1964, the Kingston Trio became the first to record an English version of "Seasons in the Sun," which was later heard by Terry Jacks and served as the foundation for his rendition.
 
Jacks altered nearly one-sixth of McKuen's lyrics, later claiming that all of the words were his own. He considered the original version and its translations to be "too macabre."

It's sort of a balancing out of the Dylan Thomas poem

[Maxmars]

The strength of heart amazes me.

I would have excused all manner of lament.

Yet he reaches higher...

His jilters were fools.

[cherokeetroy]

if Evil is the opposite of Truth, that means In every conscious moment, every choice made that doesn't align with one's authentic truth is a sin and the wages of sin is death

Maybe not physical death but rather the experience of being trapped in this death cycle we call "Life"

[chr0naut]

What was that about self confidence turning into pride?  Especially when the truth is just mainstream media propaganda, spin, and lies.

Truth is an absolute.

A lie, that one might mistakenly believe is true, is still a lie. Truth is not dependent upon belief.

Someone who believes that a lie is true, has been deceived. The nature of the truth, or otherwise, is unchanged.

Similarly, truth is not on a sliding scale. Something is either totally true, or it isn't.

In my previous example of the truth being used to cause evil, consider some children bullying another who had become incontinent in public at some stage.

The memory of the picked-on child is distressing especially when used to exclude the child socially and repeatedly recalled and reinforced.

The taunts of the bullies are surely evil, even though they may be truthful, they are intentionally hurtful.

Thus a truth may actually be a cause of evil.

[UltraBudgie]

Maybe not physical death but rather the experience of being trapped in this death cycle we call "Life"

Could just be a game of "Roy":



...with a fun stat-screen at the end, complete with bar-graphs for things like "Evil Thwarted", "Minutes Laughing", "Animals Eaten", etc.