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Tylenol fallout
(09-30-2025, 07:43 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Chosen belief vs science

You don't have science. And you will deny science and facts.

Fact is people have died from the vaccine. People have died from acetaminophen. Fact is Tylenol doesn't recommend you take it while pregnant, they want the doctor to recommend it.
                                   
(09-30-2025, 08:27 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: You don't have science. And you will deny science and facts.

Fact is people have died from the vaccine. People have died from acetaminophen. Fact is Tylenol doesn't recommend you take it while pregnant, they want the doctor to recommend it.

My brother a big Trump supporter died from Covid -- unvaxed.

Tylenol's insurance provider says don't take it -- to prevent sue-happy Americans from lawsuits.  What product doesn't have warning labels these days?  It's for lawsuits.

Everything that enters your body -- including the air you breathe -- is potentially deadly to someone who is susceptible to specific allergens.

There absolutely is science behind the Covid vaccine.  I trust the science.

You can believe whatever conspiracy you choose.
(09-30-2025, 08:39 PM)ANNEE Wrote: My brother a big Trump supporter died from Covid -- unvaxed.

Tylenol's insurance provider says don't take it -- to prevent sue-happy Americans from lawsuits.  What product doesn't have warning labels these days?  It's for lawsuits.

Everything that enters your body -- including the air you breathe -- is potentially deadly to someone who is susceptible to specific allergens.

There absolutely is science behind the Covid vaccine.  I trust the science.

You can believe whatever conspiracy you choose.

I'm unvaxxed, had Covid now 4 times.

Probably the same amount of time that people who WERE vaxxed had Covid.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
(09-30-2025, 08:48 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: I'm unvaxxed, had Covid now 4 times.

Probably the same amount of time that people who WERE vaxxed had Covid.

I'm not going to get into a Covid "war".

I trust the science.

You believe the conspiracies.

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(09-30-2025, 08:51 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I'm not going to get into a Covid "war".

I trust the science.

You believe the conspiracies.

END


Actually I'm allergic to polypropylene glycol

It's a medical choice toots.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
(09-30-2025, 08:51 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I'm not going to get into a Covid "war".

I trust the science.

You believe the conspiracies.

END

Unvaxxed, had Covid 3 times that was no worse than a headache and a cold every time.

You trust and follow Liberal science that says men can get pregnant and there is 300 genders.

Therefore, you don't follow or trust real science.
I wonder if the autism thingie overlaps at all with this research about paracetamol:

Quote:From painkiller to empathy killer: acetaminophen (paracetamol) reduces empathy for pain

Simulation theories of empathy hypothesize that empathizing with others' pain shares some common psychological computations with the processing of one's own pain. Support for this perspective has largely relied on functional neuroimaging evidence of an overlap between activations during the experience of physical pain and empathy for other people's pain. Here, we extend the functional overlap perspective to the neurochemical level and test whether a common physical painkiller, acetaminophen (paracetamol), can reduce empathy for another's pain. In two double-blind placebo-controlled experiments, participants rated perceived pain, personal distress and empathic concern in response to reading scenarios about another's physical or social pain, witnessing ostracism in the lab, or visualizing another study participant receiving painful noise blasts. As hypothesized, acetaminophen reduced empathy in response to others' pain. Acetaminophen also reduced the unpleasantness of noise blasts delivered to the participant, which mediated acetaminophen's effects on empathy. Together, these findings suggest that the physical painkiller acetaminophen reduces empathy for pain and provide a new perspective on the neurochemical bases of empathy. Because empathy regulates prosocial and antisocial behavior, these drug-induced reductions in empathy raise concerns about the broader social side effects of acetaminophen, which is taken by almost a quarter of adults in the United States each week.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27217114/

Some kind of rebound of adaptation during embryonic development?
(09-30-2025, 08:53 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Actually I'm allergic to polypropylene glycol

It's a medical choice toots.

I'm very intolerant to propylene glycol, polyethylene glycol, and polysorbate eighty and just about all of that class of emulsifiers.  I have a hard time with shampoos and Ice cream.  Carrageenan even bothers me, and too much vanilla in food can mess me up and effects my breathing somewhat.

I can tolerate some foods that contain emulsifiers in moderation, but those above seem to be more of an issue for me.  Both in and on my body.

It took me decades of observations to verify which chemistries were giving me these issues, some I discovered over forty years ago and have avoided them as much as possible since then.  The list grew as new things became more common in our food supply and soaps and other things.  Food chemistry changes even in name brand foods sometimes too, and even soap formulas change.  It sucks when you start reacting to a shampoo that you have been using for years and all of a sudden they changed the formula and now it causes problems.  Then you got the foods, and some chemistries do not need to be labeled by the fda standards if less than a certain percent...like not necessary if under two percent by weight of the final product.
(09-30-2025, 10:19 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: I wonder if the autism thingie overlaps at all with this research about paracetamol:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27217114/

Some kind of rebound of adaptation during embryonic development?

How exactly do you measure empathetic pain response to someone else being exposed to loud noise? 

I mean the test subject is naturally going to have reduced pain by the painkiller pills. The noise will be less painful, therefore less reaction to the noise. 

How exactly is the empithetic pain reaction measured without the interference of ones own reduced pain?

My guess is this medical study was more about getting money for the study than actually measureing anything really measurable. In other words, make work for some scientist. Nothing useful at all.

Even if it were measurable, how would this apply to a developing prenatal human. An adult study is not done when the human brain is in the early stages of development.

Also, when someone is experiencing pain, they are naturally less empathetic to the pain of others around them. They are usually trying to reduce their own pain as much as possible and ignoring much of everything else around them.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
(09-30-2025, 06:16 PM)DontTreadOnMe Wrote: Define fever?  99.5F?  101?F?  103F?
Low grade fevers should not be drugged at all.   

How many people call every time they have a sniffle to ask what to do?  I sure don't.
Don't people have any common sense anymore?

I'm with you. The US is a drug culture. With any amount of pain or discomfort, people turn to the medicine cabinet.

When it comes to a fever, I would personally never take drugs to lower it unless it got dangerously high (say >107F? Idk, would have to look into when that is). But for pregnant women it's obviously different. A quick Google search says even relatively low fevers (101F) are associated with birth defects etc. So if you're pregnant, your doctor would presumably prescribe anti-fever medication pretty much immediately if you got a regular cold or flu. This would most likely be acetaminophen.



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