05-24-2024, 08:14 AM
This post was last modified 05-24-2024, 08:52 AM by FlyingClayDisk.
(05-24-2024, 08:02 AM)TSK Wrote: Ah so I'm lazy? lol. Just trying to clarify. The rest of the staff agrees with me about the politics though. It's been much more peaceful here. The tone is calmer, and we're back to talking about UFOs and the topics that shaped the beginnings of ATS.
I often think of Carl Sagan's quote about the Pale Blue Dot, and it becomes so abundantly apparent how insignificant things like political bickering are when we should all be thinking in terms of humanity. The leaders of the world want us fighting each other, not them, and they're on their way to destroying the planet. I'm not playing into that game. I don't want this website to be another little microcosm feeding from their system of propaganda.
We are all one.
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No! You're NOT lazy! Far from it. The concept is lazy. It's nothing personal. So, please do not take it as being personal.
The point is, UFO's and paranormal can only hold so much water, and if the intent of the forum is to remain small and limited to this area of discussion, then this is fine. I am merely pointing out that if the forum wishes to expand and attract members then it needs to welcome the Conspiracy Du Jour which IS Politics (and surrounding conspiracy, deep state and current affairs topics). If you are okay with politics creeping into the forums (here) by the same name, then fine, but in reading the T&C's this does not seem to be the intended theme.
edit - I also think you may be being influenced by some of the former and current ATS moderators who are fatigued with dealing with politics, particularly in an atmosphere of shifting and/or absent leadership, and especially questionable leadership with a prominent political bent. And, I think these moderators are jaded and biased because of it. As I have often commented, I think the ATS staff did a fantastic job moderating ATS, but candidly, some of them are likely tired, battle fatigued if you will. Having familiar faces is good, and I'm not suggesting this applies to 'all' the ATS moderators, but I also think it would be good to infuse new blood into your forum also (all due respect, ATS moderators). By keeping almost the exact same staff you run the risk of having some of the same issues and disputes show back up. Some new faces would be a good thing. I wouldn't be surprised at all to hear you have an overwhelming vote from (former and current) ATS staff to exclude politics! I would expect no less, but that doesn't change the point here.
And one other thought, ironically playing into the Carl Sagan theme at the end of your last reply...
Humans aren't going anywhere. 'Some' humans might go to the Moon, or Mars, but humans as a whole aren't going anywhere. Not in our lifetime, and not in the lifetimes of future generations. That's the funny thing about the human life form...we're stuck here. Like it or not, but leaving isn't an option (except in a bag).
As a physicist myself, I loved Carl Sagan. He was able to put things into perspective for the masses, but only if they listened to his words carefully. There used to be drinking games around how many times Sagan would say the word "billions", but those words were key to understanding what he was really saying. Most often, when Sagan said 'billions', it was followed with the word "miles", as in billions of miles (away). We're not going there...unfortunately. And, even if we could develop 'things' which can 'go there' we will never know of them after they leave. Right now, as I write this, our furthest probe from Earth, Voyager 1 (and 2) still attempt to 'phone home' every now and then. They're not even out into interstellar space yet (technically speaking), and even still a message takes over 23 hours to reach Earth from Voyager 1. Voyager 1 won't even reach the Oort cloud for another 300 years and will require thousands of years to travel through it. Only then will Voyager be technically free of our Solar System. Imagine when/if Voyager or some other craft meets with Sagan's 'billions and billions' of miles at some distant star. We will never hear from it. Bottom line, humans in their current form are stuck here on Earth, and our future depends on dealing with issues not in space, but rather right here on Earth.
There's not enough subject matter about UFO's, ET's, paranormal, supernatural or (even skinwalkers) to sustain discussions much beyond the end of this decade. Oh sure, there will be some new thing to come along every now and then, but on the whole these discussions have been largely worn out, much the same as conspiracies such as JFK and the Bermuda Triangle have been talked to death. These 'horses', if you will, have been beaten to dust. So, what else is there? Well, back here on Earth (which we're never going to leave) are a whole host of problems and issues we humans need to contend with, and TPTB who control the solutions to these issues are ruled by one thing, and you guessed it...politics.
