05-18-2024, 04:22 AM
(05-18-2024, 04:16 AM)OneStepBack Wrote: There is a lot of information to digest. Thanks for compiling this Karl12.
Not a problem my friend and I enjoyed doing it.
Here are some more involving Air Traffic Control and Radar Operators.
ATC / Radar:
• "Oh my God what is this?"
Muskegon MI NOAA National Weather Service radar operator Jack Bushong comments on the Holland Michigan radar/visual UFO - March 8th, 1994.
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• "When you have the view of the airspace and the radar screen and you see the UFOs go around twenty or thirty miles a second - that is very real. They can turn suddenly almost 90 degrees in a second or half a second. The UFOs can go vertically straight up very quickly."
Mexico City Senior Air Traffic Controller Enrique Kolbeck.
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• "When you see a UFO on the radar screen I was told you notify NORAD, do not write anything down and keep it to yourself on a strictly need to know basis."
USAF Radar Controller Michael Smith.
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• "What we have, then, was a group of sightings made by men on the ground, at the missile sites scattered around the base. There was radar sightings from ground and weather's radar. There were visual sightings from the crew of the B-52, and an airborne radar sighting where the target traveled at 3,000 miles per hour. Scope photographs were taken. There were sightings made by S.Sgt. Bond the FSC at Nov. Flight, S.Sgt. Smith at Oscar-1, Julelt, and Mike Flight Team and a number of men in widely scattered locations. The object landed at location AA-43 and the entire observation lasted for 45 minutes. Fourteen other people in separate locations also reported the UFO."
Army Lieutenant Colonel Kevin Randle (Ret.) describes the Minot AFB B-52 radar/visual UFO incident - October 24th, 1968.
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• "UFOs appeared on the site's radar screens exhibiting changes of direction as many as five times a minute. Some course changes were 90 degrees and speeds were measured as high as 1,500 mph. Six blips at one time appeared on the radar scopes and the strange targets came within 10 miles of the GCI site. So close was the indicated range the radar personel left their windowless operations room to check the sky with the naked eye. Sure enough, six objects could be seen in the sky an estimated 10 miles away."
Staff Sergeant William Kelly stationed at Yaak radar installation, September 1st, 1953 - 'UFOs: A History, 1953: Aug-Dec., Pg.5; 19. Hall, UFO Evidence, Pg. 85'.
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• "I've never seen anything like it and I don't want to see anything like it again."
Timothy Collins, U.S. Naval radar technician who tracked UFO over Pinecastle Electronic Warfare Range Tracking Station (also visual reports), May 14th, 1978.
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• "When the object was about 3000 feet ENE of the tower, it stopped completely and hovered for about a minute. Then it began moving again, slowly at first, but then suddenly climbing at an extremely rapid rate of speed until it disappeared into the overcast sky. The object was in clear view at all time, with no intervening obstructions."
FAA (CAA) tower personnel R.M. Kaser and E. G. Brink - radar/visual confirmed UFO described as 'eggshaped, having no wings, tail or fuselage and about the size of an automobile standing on its nose' - Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico
November 4th, 1957.
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• "I have been working at airports for 16 years and never before have I seen an aircraft like it."
C. W. Sonner, Chief of Interstate Airways Communication - object also witnessed by R. L. Messmore, CAA Airways Operations Specialist - Terre Haute Municipal Airport, Indiana, October 9th, 1951.
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• "De los Santos reported then that the object is moving away toward the volcanoes and the view was missing. At that instant the plane was found 12 miles south. At the moment we said 'that was wasting of view', was another 'echo' within 10 miles of the Piper and 14 southeast of us. The 'echo' then made a left turn of 270 degrees, within three to four miles at a speed of 450 to 500 nautical miles per hour. It was unbelievable!"
Radar Controller Julio Cesar Diaz Interiánradar, Mexico Air Traffic Control Tower - radar/visual UFO case, May 3rd, 1975.
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• "They were flying in grid patterns, like they were looking for something. It was definitely systematic."
Army Air Defense Command Radarscope operator Bill Schroeder describes four UFOs over the Everglades (also visual reports), Key West, Florida, April, 1967.
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• "We had objects with four-way confirmation – ground visual, ground radar, airborne visual, airborne radar. It doesn’t get any better than that. In my following of unusual aerial phenomena for the past 50 years, there seems to be some reason to discredit very viable and very reputable witnesses when they say something is unidentified."
Lieutenant Colonel Charles Brown - Project Grudge analyst, U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations.
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• "I was working a midnight shift in the tower when at approximately 1:30 a.m., I spotted a group of luminous objects in the air above and around Edwards Air Force Base. They had a flashing red light on the bottom, with a green, glowing light above the red.
The objects would be stationary for a period of time and then move very fast to another location and appeared to be able to climb straight up in short order. Good eyesight and my experience as an air traffic controller made it plain to me that these luminous objects were not planes, helicopters, stars, satellites, weather balloons or any other known aerial object.
Your job as an air traffic controller calls for you to be watchful. Training told me these were not normal objects. The objects weren't supposed to be there. These were objects out of the normal, from their appearance and flight characteristics. I reported these sightings to base operations and the Los Angeles Air Defense Sector.
The objects were also seen by at least five other people on Edwards Air Force Base. They were also seen by George Air Force Base tower and were showing up on radar in at least four different radar sight locations."
USAF Air Traffic Controller Chuck Sorrels describes radar/visual UFO events at Edwards Air Force base, October 7th, 1965.
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• "It didn't do anything for about half an hour, then it started to move."
Boeing Engineer J. Nogel stationed at Malmstrom Air Force base, June, 1952.
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• "Well, that didn’t just didn’t fit; the thing was moving all around and it was too high, it was going too fast, and it was picked up on multiple radars - and the right angle turns it was making, no human being could’ve survived that.”
USAF GCA Radar Air Traffic Controller Gerry Flood, Eielson AFB, Alaska, 1958.
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•"Here we had a number of object seen coming in across the North Sea on coastal radar. It looked like a Russian mistake. Jet aircraft were scrambled. The objects were travelling at quite impossible speeds like 4-5000 mph and then came to an abrupt halt near to one of these stations not very high up. Jet aircraft picked them up on aircraft radar. The objects then simply made rings round them. Inevitably this led to the sort of enquiry which you would put in hand if you had any military responsibilities. Had something gone wrong with ground radar or with aircraft radar? We experienced pilots going out of their minds? Were people having fantasies? We had to investigate cases of that kind. Over the years - although there were not an enormous number of such cases - there were a sufficient number to persuade me, and a number of air staff friends with whom I had to work, that something was going on, sporadically, in British airspace which we could not explain. But we did not particularly want to make public statements about that. Not for something that we had no explanation."
Ralph Noyes, Senior Official with British Air Ministry - retired as Under Secretary of State in 1977.
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• "It was so unusual. People just looked at it and said, 'What is going on?' We're talking 30, 35 aircraft. No Air Defense Commander in his right mind would get the entire Lightning force in one location. He'd have absolutely nothing left with which to defend the United Kingdom Air Defense region. You could cut the air with a knife. It became electric rapidly. People were more than surprised.
What I saw defied all logic and was, quite frankly, extraordinary. It wasn’t just me, more than 30 pairs of eyes of RAF staff and radar operators at Heathrow Airport witnessed the same thing. I instantly knew this wasn’t a convoy of military planes - the only craft with that rate of climb were supersonic lightning aircraft but they wouldn’t have been able to hold such a perfect formation."
RAF Wing Commander Alan Turner (MBE).
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• "During the 1955 Warsaw Pact exercises, a radar station in the area of Warsaw recognized two targets over the Gulf of Gdansk. The targets were moving at a speed of 2,300 km/h at an altitude of 20 thousand meters. In those days there was no aircraft with such performance. At one point it was noticed that the two objects did a 90 degrees turn, literally on the spot with no turning radius. This maneuver at such high speeds cannot be done. Most modern aircraft are unable to do so even today, and that was 50 years ago".
Colonel Ryszard Grundmanem - Former Head of Poland's 'Air Traffic, Air Force and Air Defense'.
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• "There is no other conclusion I can reach but that for six hours on the morning of the 20th of July, 1952 there were at least ten unidentifiable objects moving above Washington.. I can safely deduce that they performed gyrations which no known aircraft could perform. By this I mean that our scope showed that they could make right angle turrns and complete reversals of flight".
Senior Air Route Traffic Controller Harry Barnes.
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• “My memory was that everything was in a complete flap. Normally, in a military situation everything is ordered, regular and set out. But here was a situation that was plainly out of control. Mechanics were flying about all over the place. The mechanics were being blamed for not calibrating the instruments properly; we were being blamed for not interpreting the readings correctly. Every single instrument on the base was showing this enormous object sitting up at an unbelievable height. It was the size of a warship and it just stood there.”
Radar Operator William Maguire, RAF Sandwich, Kent, September 17th, 1952 (same time as Operation Mainbrace).
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• "This object came to about 1500 meters from my position, always to the north and that was the nearest I saw it.. I could observe some flashes of light coming from the lower part, which lighted the lower part or base of the object; I had the impression that this lower part was flat and with a metallic aspect; I estimate that it was circular and with a diameter of about 60 meters.”
Air Traffic Controller involved in the El Tepual airport UFO incident, Puerto Montt, Chile, June 1st, 1988.
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• "Flying at close to 50,000 feet, the air speed of the object we had observed and plotted in accordance with RAF standard procedures was assessed at very nearly 3,000 miles per hour. The general consensus regarding its size, among the very best experienced radar personnel engaged in the operations, was that the object offered an echo similar to that of a large passenger or freight surface vessel, something in the region of 15,000 or 20,000 tons - there was quite a bit of buzz about this.
We were awakened from our watch slumbers by Sergeant Platt and assembled in front of Stonar House for an address by Squadron Leader Mundy. He reminded us of our duties as serving members of the RAF and the requirements of the OSA (Official Secrets Act) and to forget especially the odd occurrences of the past night and not to mention same to anyone not connected to the RAF.
Going on watch that evening we found that the Duty Watch Book, normally only replaced when completely full, which recorded every air engagement, every PBX message, every official order by the watch-keeping officer, made during every official part of previous watches, including the previous night’s activities, as an official Watch Book is required to do…had gone. Replaced by a brand new shining Duty Watch Book.”
RAF Radar Operator J.R. Oliver - RAF Sandwich, Kent, September, 1949.
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• "To make this story more incredible the very next day both radars again reported an object hovering over the base at about 10 mph, at 45,000 feet. The 'official' story on this was that they were probably some type of 'high-flying sea gulls'."
Major Edwin A. Jerome, USAF (Ret.) Command Pilot, Air Provost Marshal, Intelligence Officer, CID Investigator - Goose Bay, Labrador, 1948.
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• Statements from poll of 1000 radar operators:
Quote:• "Traveling at fantastic speeds - sometimes thousands of miles per hour - these objects execute perfect 90-degree turns, steep vertical climbs, even abrupt, hovering stops in defiance of all known laws of aerodynamics."
"When more than one are involved they fly in a pattern within a pattern."
"In addition, they invariably stay just ahead of Air Force planes sent up to intercept them."
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