01-24-2025, 08:37 AM
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(01-23-2025, 09:45 PM)MonkMode Wrote: La Niña usually means less rain and warmer winters for us, from more varied Pacific winds, which may be the case this year.
In addition, the polar winds seem to be missing us, but are hitting the eastern states hard.
But those Santa Ana winds going against the flow have hit SoCal hard.
It does seem to be the case that the average global temperature has risen a couple degrees Fahrenheit in the last couple hundred years.
That may not seem like much, but I think any change to the average global temperature over a 200 year span is very significant.
I expect a stable earth climate would never see any change in the average global temperature, as observed through seasons over 200 years.
Im not arguing just discussing the topic, first of all, La Niña, El Niña patterns happen in varying degrees, it just means southern snows are less likely overall, but it doesn't rule out any singular weather events like earlier this week.
I'm open to any possibilities.
But I disagree with the "stability" of our weather patterns, the weather/climate is based on thousands and thousands of variables our human interaction is just one variable in the whole climate puzzle. Weather is ever-changing and dynamic and full of uncertainties, there is a reason weather forecasting is a little like sports gambling odds.
For example
What are the environmental and temperature impacts of volcanic eruptions in history specifically the last 200 years?
https://intlpollution.commons.gc.cuny.ed...pollution/
Quote:Volcanoes release up to 130 million tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere each year (USGS, 2010). It is averaged out that volcanism, per year, contributes anywhere between 65-319 million tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere (EIA, 2011). One volcanic eruption has the opportunity to outgas as much carbon dioxide in one day than 250 years of anthropogenic activity (Primer, 2010). The United States Geological Survey stated that ” Our studies here at Kilauea show that the eruption discharges between 8,000 and 30,000 metric tonnes of CO[sub]2[/sub] into the atmosphere each day” (USGS, 2007). The eruptions of the supervolcano Toba in Sumatra 75,000 years ago released up to 250 ppm of carbon dioxide on five different outgassing events (Krulwich, 2012).
Im not saying we should continue our current industrialization path, I just question the hyperbolic claims, just like we were told the hole in the ozone was irreversible
Just as Bill Maher stated it's estimated these recent California fires' carbon outputs have wiped out the years of our driving around the shitty little Toyota Prius.
I need to see more evidence that 100 years or so of human industrialization means that if we don't change in 7 years, the impacts are irreversible, and the end of the world
Which I believe were the claims of Congressperson Alexandra Ocasio Cortez
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/24/politics/...index.html
Quote:Ocasio-Cortez’s claimWith her 12-year timeline, it’s possible that Ocasio-Cortez is referencing a major global report from last October by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the United Nation’s scientific authority on climate change.
The year 2030 came up prominently in that report, marking the first year that the planet is likely to warm by 1.5 degrees Celsius (the report provided a range of between 2030 and 2052). This temperature was set as an idealistic goal during the 2015 Paris Climate Accord. It is widely seen among climate scientists as a marker, beyond which long-term, irreversible change begins to occur, but does not signify the end of the world.
The report certainly does not say that the world will end in 12 years, but it does warn that if there has not been a major shift in human’s reliance on fossil fuels for energy, land, and industrial systems by that time, we may begin living in a world that is more hostile to our current way of life – with higher sea levels, hotter heat waves and more extreme disasters.
Says Shepherd, “When the extreme rhetoric dominates the headlines or social media space, the real science gets lost. Trust me, climate change is bad enough as it is, it doesn’t need to be inaccurately inflated…”
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