California wildfires

[KrustyKrab]

The winds are slightly diminished... for 4 or 5 days. Then another moderate to strong Santa Ana event begins. With the current one ramping back up in the next few hours.

This is just beginning. And there's nothing you can do to prevent a fire moving up to 15 mph in 80-100 MPH winds gusts.

Paradise always has a price. Florida knows this well. And like them this state will come together, not tolerate opportunistic criminality (mostly) and be fucked by insurers in the end.

I thank this thread for not immediately focusing on the budget cuts to the LAFD and doing the false dilemma thing.

No failure to claim when there's no chance to begin with. People just don't understand Santa Ana/Diablo wind fueled fires at their worst. People don't understand how futile the most equipped fire departments efforts are. No preparedness is enough for The Palisade and Eaton fire.

They tired, but the amount of water needed and manpower needed is not achievable by any infrastructure anywhere. No hydrant system has the capacity for these fires. And we don't need conservative America being angry at our liberal politicians alleged failures.

The fire chief might have said budget cuts would hamper a large scale response a month ago, but even a 10x increase of funding isn't saving Palisades or Altadena in retrospect. It defines false dilemma and is ignorant to the fires abilities.

It's like there's no real concern, but instead its an excuse to criticize wicked California again.

Please don't let conservative media (Looking at you Fox) try to instill an anger vs our liberal policies on this. You don't need to roast the California demon this time. They can just stop politicizing an event they have remedial first hand knowledge in.

I hate to bust your love fest that the left has done no wrong but there’s a lot of information that’s come out that doesn’t really favor your narrative. It’s not just conservative people speaking out against the incompetence but LOTS of democrats too. It’s not just a FOX thing as you keep repeating.

You mentioned earlier and may have edited it out that they’re only down a couple of fireman, that’s not true. The Fire Chief herself outed the incompetence and need for years now of more firemen and more stations, she said they’re 16 stations shy of what they need and at least a couple of hundred firefighters shy of what’s needed. She also pointed to other faults that were not being addressed. Unbelievably they knew for a while that many of the hydrants were down and had no backup. And from what I’ve read the list goes on from there. These are not conservative or FOX talking points 33.

You also mentioned this wasn’t fire season and it absolutely is. Santa Anna’s happen between September and May in CA’s colder months, ripe for starting fires. Not a time to be draining your reservoirs and leaving city’s without water to fight fires. That is a failure on this government which just happens to be all Democrat. I know you always toe the line for them but they failed spectacularly, they’re even admitting to it, well many are anyway while others are playing the blame game. It definitely isn’t all about climate change as some are saying, that’s nothing but an excuse for their failures.

Budget cuts certainly didn’t help their cause and focusing on their DEI lens as the head of the Water Department put it, is just more of their political games and nonsense that doesn’t help anyone.

I agree that no matter what they had for resources it would be difficult to be prepared for this. Although, the fact they didn’t have any redundancy built into their infrastructure is a huge failure of city and state. They were given millions if not billions in 2014 to build more reservoirs, they didn’t do that, they also didn’t build the stations they needed. Lots of things that could’ve been done that would’ve affected the outcome of this fire weren’t done.