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On Consciousness
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(08-06-2024, 01:57 PM)midicon Wrote: I'm asking what evidence you have. I don't believe in Gods, angels magic and miracles heaven and hell.

I am open to different perspectives on reality but maybe just a little something to support your claim that consciousness is more than just an emergent property would make it more than just an opinion.
 
Of course you don't believe in Gods, angels magic miracles heaven and hell. It would be surprising if you did. For the most part, neither do I. But I'm not willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater. And that's exactly what science has done. Because of the aversion and FEAR of Gods and angels.... absolutely nothing of the sort is allowed. Science claims it is open-minded. I find that laughable. 

That consciousness is an emergent property is also an opinion. What evidence do you have of that? Thousands of pages have been written about consciousness, most tortured explanations that make no sense. In all those thousands of pages, articles, and theories the one conclusion reached is: "We don't know what consciousness is." I'm providing a framework to discuss what consciousness is. I am no more required to "prove" my contention than you are required to prove consciousness is an emergent property. If that's what you think, you prove it. As far as I know, that has never been proven.  It's just been assumed by science as part of that world view. It is myopic. And that world view is preventing us from understanding the larger issues. 

I am going to diverge from this exact subject in my next post and try to tie it together after that...
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On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-06-2024, 12:02 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by midicon - 08-06-2024, 01:04 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-06-2024, 01:40 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by midicon - 08-06-2024, 01:57 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-06-2024, 02:56 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by midicon - 08-06-2024, 03:35 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Maxmars - 08-06-2024, 03:44 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-06-2024, 04:01 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by midicon - 08-07-2024, 12:04 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-08-2024, 05:02 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by midicon - 08-09-2024, 04:59 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 08-08-2024, 11:29 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-09-2024, 11:49 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-10-2024, 09:40 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 08-23-2024, 02:12 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-23-2024, 09:55 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 08-23-2024, 06:06 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Karl12 - 08-09-2024, 12:43 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by midicon - 08-10-2024, 12:57 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-12-2024, 04:22 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Karl12 - 08-10-2024, 04:44 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by IdeomotorPrisoner - 08-12-2024, 10:44 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-13-2024, 11:37 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-14-2024, 07:46 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Swada - 08-14-2024, 07:01 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-13-2024, 06:54 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-14-2024, 03:54 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by Karl12 - 08-14-2024, 07:55 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Maxmars - 08-23-2024, 04:42 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-24-2024, 12:48 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-23-2024, 07:46 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 08-23-2024, 08:34 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by schuyler - 08-25-2024, 05:01 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-25-2024, 08:43 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-26-2024, 05:16 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 09-04-2024, 08:48 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-27-2024, 09:08 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Maxmars - 08-30-2024, 09:19 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 08-31-2024, 06:52 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 09-01-2024, 02:00 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 09-02-2024, 04:43 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 09-17-2024, 11:03 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 09-24-2024, 01:23 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by UltraBudgie - 09-30-2024, 10:10 AM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 10-03-2024, 11:23 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 10-04-2024, 04:38 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by UltraBudgie - 10-04-2024, 05:06 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by l0st - 10-17-2024, 08:48 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Maxmars - 10-04-2024, 06:13 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 10-04-2024, 08:17 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by Maxmars - 10-04-2024, 09:24 PM
RE: On Consciousness - by CCoburn - 10-05-2024, 03:40 PM

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