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#41
It was "polite society" that pushed those deemed unacceptable to the "fringe".  

Then made laws against them. It was illegal to be LGTQ+ until 1977.  That's less than 50 years ago.

Excuse the push back -- from what "you" created.
#42
(10-12-2025, 01:32 PM)ANNEE Wrote: It was "polite society" that pushed those deemed unacceptable to the "fringe".  

Then made laws against them. It was illegal to be LGTQ+ until 1977.  That's less than 50 years ago.

Excuse the push back -- from what "you" created.


What aberrant sexual behavior is going to be "normalized" next?
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#43
(10-12-2025, 01:45 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: What aberrant sexual behavior is going to be "normalized" next?

Monogamous heterosexuality.
#44
Who exactly made the choice for me that sexuality (a natural behavior) can only be between a woman and man?

Oh wait.  Religion.  A man made construct.
#45
(10-12-2025, 01:16 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: A noble sentiment, but am I hearing naïveté? Perish the thought!

Or to say: have you found the perfect tool for advancing social agenda? "Accept our incrementalism or we'll get violent!"

Never said as such of course, but signalled in "isolated" event and example. The subtext: "Take how we treat you, cancel you, call you a bigot, Nazi, and count yourself lucky that is all we do!"

And perhaps, the lucky still have their jobs.

Or to trans: the guilt. "Accept us so we can accept ourselves and if we can't accept ourselves and ragequit this life, the blood is on your hands".

A dilemma. The compassion bows.

Can one kowtow lower? The question the right seems to have asked itself, in practice, the last decade. "We don't want to be the intolerant ones!" Ah, they too rely on their surety that hypocrisy is the domain of the "other".

Has the head hit the floor? What more can conservatives do? Where to compassion now, that it is the left burning crosses?

So: going to be violent? Then: okay, let the law be objective. Let us proceed, America.

Admittedly sentiment... and isn't all sentiment necessarily naive?

I fail to see a victor and a vanquished in the outcome... the resistance is always against that inevitability... yet here we are... tell me why...

I've heard many 'any minute now' proclamation continuously for at least half a century...
it's difficult to get stoked...our careening into threat.. it's all threat.
As a foolish book reader it always seemed clear that we basely underestimate the past...

Traditions don't just develop like weeds.
There is an accounting for their durability; including the errant baggage.
It's good we are called to recognize our hypocrisy... by other hypocrites. 
social balance?, no... self-revelation? insert identity here, ... perhaps.

Society - all of us - manifest inertia.

Tantrums seem unavoidable... 
and sometimes fabricated.

I expect humankind has experienced this "drama" throughout history.
#46
Guess the game difficulty is going back to "hard." 

I'm worried the Gen Z kids that never went through the stigma/homophobia on a harder difficulty will have a tougher time with it. 

Or will do nothing but feed the unhinged stereotypes. 

In the late 90s we used "PLUR."  Free expression and sense of self was made more profound at impromptu gatherings. Which always fed a Burning Man-like progressivism. We learned it from the 80s kids. 

And did it without social media too!

@ this-party-down-a-long-dirt-road-near-the-reservation. 


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#47
(10-12-2025, 02:02 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Who exactly made the choice for me that sexuality (a natural behavior) can only be between a woman and man?

 

Hundreds of thousands of years of existence. 

Biggrin
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#48
(10-12-2025, 02:16 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Hundreds of thousands of years of existence. 

Then why after hundreds of thousands of years does homosexuality and gender variance still exist?

If it was so evolutionarily detrimental, wouldn't you think it would have been weeded out by now?
#49
(10-12-2025, 03:12 PM)AnAlternateOpinion Wrote: Then why after hundreds of thousands of years does homosexuality and gender variance still exist?

If it was so evolutionarily detrimental, wouldn't you think it would have been weeded out by now?


There are always going to be outliers.  Things outside the norm of the bell curve.
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#50
(10-12-2025, 03:12 PM)AnAlternateOpinion Wrote: Then why after hundreds of thousands of years does homosexuality and gender variance still exist?

If it was so evolutionarily detrimental, wouldn't you think it would have been weeded out by now?



It still exists because it is not the norm. A colony of gay people will not survive because they don't produce offspring unless they somehow participate in fertilization.
That takes sperm and egg.
Male and Female.

Yes, you can use artificial insemination, but it still takes a male and female to reproduce.