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07-15-2025, 11:08 AM
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(07-15-2025, 10:55 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: Except that the files used in her conviction were shown to everyone that proved she was child trafficking. She was already convicted, whether or not the rest of the files exist or not, will not change that fact.
But now with Trump claiming that all the files related to the Epstein case are fake, then that conviction could be on rocky ground and could give Maxwell enough grounds for a retrial.
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning."
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(07-15-2025, 11:08 AM)Kurokage Wrote: But now with Trump claiming that all the files related to the Epstein case are fake, then that conviction could be on rocky ground and could give Maxwell enough grounds for a retrial.
That would not nullify the victim accounts that testified during the trial.
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I am always suspicious of "slow-drip" revelations....
and with this bunch of players.... there's good reason.
They are in the process of juggling flaming knives.
They dare not create a "distraction" because the value of that changed years ago...
.. and even the hint of it could be called another "tacit" admission...
The actual core of their 'social' order is broken beyond repair.
Ban the Republican and Democrat parties now.
Between the graft, the grift, the abuse, the coup, the cover-up....
Ban them.... they are NOT about America... they are about perpetual primacy of their "party,"
(or "club" would be a good synonym... you know... the one most of us are not in.)
Force them to re coalesce...
Watch the garbage float away.
[Sorry... feeling idealistic and naive]
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07-15-2025, 11:25 AM
This post was last modified: 07-15-2025, 11:37 AM by Kurokage. 
(07-15-2025, 11:20 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: That would not nullify the victim accounts that testified during the trial.
But now Maxwell will claim that they too were all fake accounts, as Trump has now said there is now Epstein files. Maxwell can claim who was she trafficking children to, if they have no evidence of Epstein being a sicko???
Edit To Add....
Maxwell was convicted of Child trafficking for Epstein but Trump and the Justice Department concluded that Epstein died by suicide and didn’t keep a “client list,” and it's all a democrat fake, if so then who did Maxwell traffic children to???
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07-15-2025, 11:50 AM
This post was last modified: 07-16-2025, 05:28 AM by quintessentone. 
(07-15-2025, 11:25 AM)Kurokage Wrote: But now Maxwell will claim that they too were all fake accounts, as Trump has now said there is now Epstein files. Maxwell can claim who was she trafficking children to, if they have no evidence of Epstein being a sicko???
Edit To Add....
Maxwell was convicted of Child trafficking for Epstein but Trump and the Justice Department concluded that Epstein died by suicide and didn’t keep a “client list,” and it's all a democrat fake, if so then who did Maxwell traffic children to???
Maxwell and her lawyers cooked up a defense to say that ALL the victims had false memory and that nobody was trafficked.
It's just sickening.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(07-15-2025, 11:50 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Maxwell and her lawyers cooked up a defense to say that ALL the victims' had false memory and that nobody was trafficked.
It's just sickening.
It is and the Trump administration claiming the files are all fake or don't exist is playing right in Maxwell's hands. He's giving her all the ammunition she needs.
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(07-15-2025, 12:00 PM)Kurokage Wrote: It is and the Trump administration claiming the files are all fake or don't exist is playing right in Maxwell's hands. He's giving her all the ammunition she needs.
Yes, that is the way I am seeing it as well.
"The only journey is the one within."
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Lawyers do what they do...
Imagery, narratives, thrice-removed slander, selective hearsay reporting, exercising their dominion over evidence, built-in support from "association" members (read "club")...
Prosecution and Defense (in media) are sanitized of reality and molded into appearances - AS A RULE.
What things can each side benefit from?
Victimhood... Can be framed as an asset and a weakness. Projecting that you're being bullied by monumental forces... has value... Attaching personal baggage... has value....
Many interested observers will probably get lost in the theater... which maybe designed specifically to persuade a captive jury... but subsequently reported in media with their signature twist... add talking head dissent... amplify disagreement... question the motives of whoever they wish to hurt (and/or the reverse.)
Many will forget the crime....
Let's see...
Did you know that, assuming you have the money, or leverage.... there's a place you can go to have sex with underage unwitting children?
That you can go there and do that with friends,,, scheduled.. flight arrangements, transportation to and from, no bother "looking" for some child and the hassle of seducing them?
Someone "gets" the child for you.
Someone brings them there.
Do what thou wilt.... woo hoo...
Now imagine the pile of children we DON'T know about....
Thanks...
forget the theater....
Justice is a vehicle...
Compassion should be the driver,
In light of the compassion I feel for the kids...
I think the time to glorify anything some lawyers say in public...
passed them by when the bodies hit the floor...
I suspect there's more coming in this bloody trend of "special parties" for "special people."
And yes, I am alluding to my fear that corpses will soon surface.... little corpses....
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(07-15-2025, 10:47 AM)Kurokage Wrote: The trouble is by Trump claiming that all the files are a democrat fake, he's handing Maxwell a get out jail free card.
Maxwell is going to claim that if the President (Who controls the FBI & DOJ) now knows all these files are a creation by Obama, Clinton and Comey, then her prosecution shouldn't stand as the evidence to convict her isn't reliable.
Naw she was convicted on other evidence
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(07-15-2025, 11:08 AM)Kurokage Wrote: But now with Trump claiming that all the files related to the Epstein case are fake, then that conviction could be on rocky ground and could give Maxwell enough grounds for a retrial.
No her convictions are for other things
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