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Jeffrey Epstein files: Ghislaine Maxwell is ready to reveal the 'truth'
#81
(07-15-2025, 08:11 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: That theory doesn’t work if we assume that donors and politicians are implicated on both sides. It’s mutually assured destruction.

I suppose the difference is one side ran on exposing it only to bury it. The other side sat on it and stayed quite till now when it’s politically expedient.

Neither are absolved of guilt, we can only argue who is worse. That’s been the state of two party politics for decades.

Not really buying that theory either.

They would have done anything to stop Trump including sacrificing some of their own.

It almost couldn't be possible that all of them were raping kids.
#82
(07-15-2025, 08:20 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: Not really buying that theory either.

They would have done anything to stop Trump including sacrificing some of their own.

It almost couldn't be possible that all of them were raping kids.

So Comey and Obama slipped in while Trump was president the first term to alter the evidence? Or Trump's first term reviewed all the evidence, and know it was altered, but no one is going to be charged for altering the data. 

It's so obvious both sides are trying to bury this, if you can't see that, I can't help you.
#83
It's not an outrageous notion...

One side poisons the well, so the other can't use it.
But we all know the real problem here....
It's that 'poison' is so plentiful!
Like a family 'secret'...
Like "private" dirt...

Still dream of being one of them?

Remove both parties from the equation and this crap will go away...
The discussion becomes about crime...
...  can't have that now... can we?
#84
(07-15-2025, 06:53 PM)imitator Wrote: Yeah… it’s more than just those flight logs.
Trump’s blaming Comey, Obama, and Biden for supposedly creating fake files... and now he’s telling Bondi to cherry pick what she thinks is credible?

That tells us there’s something about Trump in those files he doesn’t want us seeing.

I absolutely agree. I voted for him. His actions the last 3 months have made me question his true motives. Especially, considering he can't be re-elected.

In the end, he was by far the lesser of two evils. Where would we be today with Kamala?

I'm pretty sure they are all Lizzid people.
#85
(07-15-2025, 09:24 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Trump’s now saying the Epstein "client list" is fake and actually made up during Biden’s time in office.

Which flips what he said before, where he used to promise he would release the list if reelected.

Now, he claims the whole thing is just political drama cooked up by Democrats???!!!

When the truth is a judge unsealed a bunch of names back in 2023/2024, but the FBI says there’s no secret list!

Trump's just trying to shift blame now, in an attempt to dodge backlash from his own base.

This is complete and utter clown shoes and a cover-up of epic proportions.  Mad

But how was he even suppose to know that it was fake until he investigated it and came to that conclusion? I think thats why he's trying to get more transparency on it so he can be like look now youre looking at the same shit I am. Sometimes a duck is a duck. Not every conspiracy can be true no matter how bad we want them to be. I think he really thought there was a list, we all did, most still do, but I think the evidence he has found is that it was all bs and when he tried to tell ya, you wouldnt have it because youre so invested in it. How can you all speak of wanting justice and know that prince Andrew 100% was "the list" and do nothing about him? Justice was done through financial settlement in which every victim received as far as I know. They are all millionaires now and we are apparently waiting on this list just so we can boo at them I guess. Booooo prince Andrew boooooo. Nothing happened to him. I say change that first *Legally! Dont do anything stupid!* and then worry about whats next right?

Bottom line though: People are miserable in their happiness and happy in their misery. Sometimes theres just no pleasing people. I kind of feel sorry for Trump. Its like he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't now.
#86
(07-15-2025, 08:09 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: The Democrats controlled the DOJ for 4 years. 

If there was a smoking gun in the files involving their arch enemy Trump, they would have released it to keep Trump from winning the presidency in 2024.

Especially when their candidate was as dumb and unelectable as Kamala.

Hell, they could have just made something up like they've done in the past but they didn't.

Do you really not see what's going on here? He played you like a fiddle and you are still eating up what they feed you.
It is crystal clear Trump is hiding something. Trump is covering for child abusers. He needs to ensure the files get released as soon as possible. But he won't unless it is carefully vetted to ensure his name is not associated. And he was really banking on his base to be dumb enough to not catch on, well clearly it seems to work with some.
#87
I second MaxMars in simply denying both democratic and republican parties. Maybe America party is the way. I've seen crazier things happen remember a few elections ago when that one guy put his name as "Deez Nuts" on the ballot?

 https://wjla.com/news/election/vote-2016...-president

What i would rather see though are the bringing back of the strong family unit and the local community relying on one another. Smaller federal government. Something similar to pre industrial revolution would be nice. Or to even do it over again from the 1950s or 1980s. Well that will stay a dream, we'd have to destroy all technological advancement. I'd begin with mass media. I really believe mass media is the root of the majority of the problems that plague the world.
#88
(07-16-2025, 12:45 AM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: But how was he even suppose to know that it was fake until he investigated it and came to that conclusion? I think thats why he's trying to get more transparency on it so he can be like look now youre looking at the same shit I am. Sometimes a duck is a duck. Not every conspiracy can be true no matter how bad we want them to be. I think he really thought there was a list, we all did, most still do, but I think the evidence he has found is that it was all bs and when he tried to tell ya, you wouldnt have it because youre so invested in it. How can you all speak of wanting justice and know that prince Andrew 100% was "the list" and do nothing about him? Justice was done through financial settlement in which every victim received as far as I know. They are all millionaires now and we are apparently waiting on this list just so we can boo at them I guess. Booooo prince Andrew boooooo. Nothing happened to him. I say change that first *Legally! Dont do anything stupid!* and then worry about whats next right?

Bottom line though: People are miserable in their happiness and happy in their misery. Sometimes theres just no pleasing people. I kind of feel sorry for Trump. Its like he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't now.

Trump didn't "investigate" the Epstein list, he repeated conspiracy claims, then backtracked when no list was shown.

And the victims didn't all become millionaires.

Justice wasn't fully served.

Prince Andrew faced no criminal charges.

Transparency is good, but Trump shifting blame doesn't equal truth.

People wanted answers, not political spin.

The bottom line is that people want to see that list. 

And not showing it, or blaming it on previous administrations, is apt to go down like a lead balloon.

Then there is the fact that the House has just blocked a Democratic attempt to release sealed Epstein evidence a couple of days ago, which hardly bodes well credibility-wise for Trump.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#89
(07-15-2025, 04:27 PM)xuenchen Wrote: Naw she was convicted on other evidence  Smilegrin

You got that wrong my friend....(emboldened by me)
 Now that Trump is claiming the Epstein documents are frauds conjured up by the democrats and there's no client list, it could throw her conviction into doubt. 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/ghi...ally-abuse
Quote: following a one-month jury trial, of conspiracy to entice minors to travel to engage in illegal sex acts, conspiracy to transport minors to participate in illegal sex acts, transporting a minor to participate in illegal sex acts, sex trafficking conspiracy, and sex trafficking of a minor.
.......From at least 1994, up to and including in or about 2004, GHISLAINE MAXWELL assisted, facilitated, and participated in Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse of minor girls by, among other things, helping Epstein to recruit, groom, and ultimately abuse victims known to MAXWELL and Epstein to be under the age of 18.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#90
(07-16-2025, 04:05 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Trump didn't "investigate" the Epstein list, he repeated conspiracy claims, then backtracked when no list was shown.

And the victims didn't all become millionaires.

Justice wasn't fully served.

Prince Andrew faced no criminal charges.

Transparency is good, but Trump shifting blame doesn't equal truth.

People wanted answers, not political spin.

The bottom line is that people want to see that list. 

And not showing it, or blaming it on previous administrations, is apt to go down like a lead balloon.

Then there is the fact that the House has just blocked a Democratic attempt to release sealed Epstein evidence a couple of days ago, which hardly bodes well credibility-wise for Trump.

I was pleased to see last night on X that Alex Jones is investigating this and also has the same opinion as stated in your post.  I guess he holds more allegiance to Musk for his replatforming him!  

It will be interesting to see how this story develops, and how it will eventually be covered up again, by a doctored copy being released, or some such shenanigans.  They'll figure something out...



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