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More than 50 countries have reached out to the President to begin tariff negotiations
So, DOGE quietly removes an awful lot of supposed "savings" from its website:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/news/cont...reappshare

Nearly one billion dollars it seems.

What a con. And MAGA fell for it...
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(04-17-2025, 01:34 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: So, DOGE quietly removes an awful lot of supposed "savings" from its website:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/news/cont...reappshare

Nearly one billion dollars it seems.

What a con. And MAGA fell for it...

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(04-17-2025, 01:34 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: So, DOGE quietly removes an awful lot of supposed "savings" from its website:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/news/cont...reappshare

Nearly one billion dollars it seems.

What a con. And MAGA fell for it...

They had to adjust for some money that had to go back because of temp court orders  Biggrin
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Nah. It was all a load of made up bollox.
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Is this the DOGE debacle debate, the Trump Neurosis Nitpicking and Nagging, or the Terrible Trump's Traumatizing Tariffs thread? 

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(04-17-2025, 03:46 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Is this the DOGE debacle debate, the Trump Neurosis Nitpicking and Nagging, or the Terrible Trump's Traumatizing Tariffs thread? 

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Meanwhile in Vietnam, Xi received an emperor's welcome and the Vietnamese prostitutes give Chinese Johns double time.
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(04-17-2025, 03:49 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Meanwhile in Vietnam, Xi received an emperor's welcome and the Vietnamese prostitutes give Chinese Johns double time.

Why wouldn't Vietnam revere XI? Both China and Vietnam are allies and among the few major communist exporters to the West

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  • China is Vietnam’s second-largest export market (after the United States), absorbing 24% of Vietnam’s exports, particularly in electronics.
  • Vietnam serves as a “plus one” destination in the “China Plus One” strategy, where companies diversify supply chains beyond China. Chinese firms have heavily invested in Vietnam to produce goods for export, often to bypass U.S. tariffs. This has integrated Vietnam into China’s supply chains, with Chinese-made components forming a significant portion of Vietnam’s exports to the West.

  • For instance, Vietnam’s rules of origin allow products with at least 30% local value content to qualify as “Made in Vietnam,” enabling Chinese companies to use Vietnam as a conduit for exports while avoiding higher tariffs.
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(04-17-2025, 04:07 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Why wouldn't Vietnam revere XI? Both China and Vietnam are allies and among the few major communist exporters to the West

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After Xi's visit to Vietnam, Trump claimed China is trying to screw the U.S., so true eqivalency, in the sense Vietnam trades with both U.S. and China, but Trump does not get an emperor's welcome.

"U.S. goods trade with Vietnam totaled an estimated $149.6 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to Vietnam in 2024 were $13.1 billion, up 32.9 percent..."

"China is Vietnam's largest bilateral trade partner, with commerce totaling over $205 billion last year..."

The U.S. has a lot to lose.
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(04-17-2025, 04:14 PM)quintessentone Wrote: After Xi's visit to Vietnam, Trump claimed China is trying to screw the U.S., so true eqivalency, in the sense Vietnam trades with both U.S. and China, but Trump does not get an emperor's welcome.

"U.S. goods trade with Vietnam totaled an estimated $149.6 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to Vietnam in 2024 were $13.1 billion, up 32.9 percent..."

"China is Vietnam's largest bilateral trade partner, with commerce totaling over $205 billion last year..."

The U.S. has a lot to lose.
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US has a lot to lose

Pretending China and Vietnam haven't been allies and trading partners till Trump forced them too, with his terrible tariffs what an unmitigated crock of shit

It's a false equivalency, the US loses nothing in a China-Vietnam relationship. Vietnam couldn't replace American consumer imports in 20 years 

for perspective ....
 Vietnam accounts for approximately 0.65% of total U.S. goods exports. and 

Vietnam accounts for approximately 4.20% of total U.S. goods imports in addition
 
  • Estimates suggest 7-16% of Vietnamese exports to the U.S. may originate from China, though the Trump administration claimed up to one-third.
  • Recent Developments: Vietnam has offered to reduce tariffs on U.S. imports to 0% and increase purchases of American products (e.g., LNG, cars, ethanol, chicken, almonds, apples) to mitigate the impact of U.S. tariffs. However, U.S. trade officials, including Peter Navarro, have dismissed these offers, citing non-tariff barriers and persistent trade imbalances
America will be fine without Vietnam altogether. Most of the imports are small electronics and lower-cost apparel, and textiles. My industry gets nothing from Vietnam, it's all China for high-end textiles and piece goods. The industry would love to build up capabilities in other countries and domestically, but unless there is a modification on our imports and exports, aka tariffs, there is  no motivation to change 

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