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Trump Neurosis Thread
(03-13-2025, 12:19 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: You have to make protesting for the wrong thing a legal violation worth rescinding their privileges over.

You know, you can call them whatever you want and even advocate the worst treatment this side of the Urals North Atlantic for them, but Trump people should probably stop citing the constitution.

Because clearly they've never read it thoroughly or care what it actually says.

Final ETA (and major concern):

If organizing a protest against Israel, because you chant the "River to Sea" thing and the mob gets destructive on their own accord, is now a hate crime (and not protected free speech) it opens a legal door for protests such as calling a Trump a fascist to be made illegal on similar grounds. An "Antifa" demonstration becomes a terrorist protest down that road because they once looted and burned things during civil unrest.

You seem to be confusing criminal activity with protest. Only peaceful protest is lawful. Any protest that involves riots, looting, arson, and violence is not protected speech for anyone. That's a fact, it's not hate, it's common sense. The people doing it know what they are doing is illegal and harmful. I highly doubt most of them even have a clue what they are protesting for and they are just pawns being indoctrinated by an enemy of the US.
Quote:the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Quote:18 USC Ch. 115: TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
 
§2381. TreasonWhoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Imagine if the DOJ started enforcing that bit of law. Anyone supporting Hamas is technically guilty of that. The War on Terror is still valid.
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(03-13-2025, 03:17 PM)Blaine91555 Wrote: Any protest that involves riots, looting, arson, and violence is not protected speech for anyone.

Littering and.... Littering and...

Unless it's J/6 or uniting the right, right?

Why don't we all blame Terry McAullife (for being a "lead figure" in) or one of the more direct organizers on those same grounds because one of the particpants at the rally drove into 35 counter-protestors? So many swastikas and rebel flags.

Where's the condemnation of that as antisemitic hate? Or the greater elephant in that room, J/6?

Is still "fine people on both sides?" Pardon-worthy?

Which is fine, but if your gonna pick that lane of indifference and hate speech equality, stay in it.

Don't counter the left situational crocodile tears with the inversion. If Trump is a third way, be a third way, not an inverted mirror of nepotism.
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(03-13-2025, 03:32 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Littering and.... Littering and...

Unless it's J/6 or uniting the right, right?

Why don't we all blame Terry McAullife on those same grounds because one of the particpants at his rally drove into 35 counter-protestors? So many swastikas amd rebel flags.

Where's the condemnation of that? Or the greater elephant in that room, J/6?

Is still "fine people on both sides?" Pardon-worthy?

Which is fine, but if your gonna pick that lane of indifference and hate speech equality, stay in it.

Don't counter the left situational crocodile tears with the inversion. If Trump is a third way, be a third way, not an inverted mirror of nepotism.

Again willfully ignoring the salient point our domestically grown naturalized citizen-persons or other identities, have different rights than a visa card and or green card holder, pretty much standard throughout the world except Europe and Canada

Perhaps it is why we give "immigrants" credit cards, thousands in cash, cell phones, places to live etc.
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Yes. Yes they do, but not where their right to protest is concerned. Or what causes they're allowed to have while here.

Under logic of this move he needs to call for every green-card holder in a white nationalist group, like the Proud Boys, to be deported without being charged with a crime on the same grounds of antisemitism.

If support of Palestine is antisemitic by proxy default. Support of white nationalist groups is antisemitic by default too.

They don't get quick fix their Israel allegiance after years of Zionist Occupational Government removal rhetoric.
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I don't know what I find funnier, the idea that the Proud Boys would have anyone holding a green card in their group, or the idea that supporting Palestine is anti Semitic. Palestinians are Semitic too. 
Here I go again ad nauseum but we shouldn't be supporting any foreign countries with our citizens money, anymore.  We are bankrupt. Caput. Show's over.
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They're united across the internet. Love of Hitler crap is love of Hitler crap. They unite for skin color and volkish ideology. Like supporting that UK neo nazi with the race baiting stickers. Proud Boys (and their ilk) would let him in, no question. All EDL folks allowed.

It's not so funny if you follow Mein Kampf sales across North America, Europe, and Austrailia. Especially after the Syrian refugees arrived.

So I rhetorically call for everyone on a green card that would say "It's okay to be proud go be white" or side with that sentiment to be deported on the same grounds of hate and antisemitism. At very least for being incendiary and baiting. WPWW is inherently racist.

They're unwelcome guests for just as many naturalized people here too..
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What still blows my mind, since we are talking about Ukraine in the other thread, is all these Slavs that are totally obsessed with Hitler when Hitler couldn't stand Slavs.
It's all based on bullshit but if i recall, their (slavic)  workaround to this issue of loving your daddy when your daddy doesnt love you, is showing that oh hey Slavs were Aryans too. cuz they came out of the Norse lands.  lol 

Anyway, about green cards and malfeasance :D When my wife had her interview for her Green Card they asked her if she was ever a member or currently a member of the Communist party (Under Obama) . I find that funny when there are supposedly so many Progressive Marxists in government.

Hey more synchronicities.
Minute 44 I am hearing the Vallee interview on Rogan and he brings up Hitler just now as I typed this.
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I know Trump partly just wants to stop liberal academics from instilling the Lebanon-Styled propaganda at universities, as an extension of killing the woke. And that is somewhat true. Kids need to be persuaded to start marching.

Use to be college kids went commie, now it's something new to break status quo with. And Norman Finklestein and Pro-Arab teachers won the minds of our youth.

It's a mistake to use it as an example, though. It's just more hippes not trusting anything that isn't the underdog.

Honestly, like Putin, it seems like Trump is just using some insincere crocodile antisemitism tears (a fake love of Israel and Jews) to do something else.

And I think that is to create a legal precedent for criminalizing protests arbitrarily on the definition of what the president defines as a threat.
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(03-13-2025, 04:29 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: They're united across the internet. Love of Hitler is love of Hitler. They unite for skin color and volkish ideology. Like supporting that UK neo nazi with the race baiting stickers. Proud Boys (and their ilk) would let him in, no question. All EDL folks allowed.

It's not so funny if you follow Mein Kampf sales across North America, Europe, and Austrailia. Especially after the Syrian refugees arrived.

So I rhetorically call for everyone on a green card that would say "It's okay to be proud go be white" or side with that sentiment to be deported on the same grounds of hate and antisemitism. At very least for being incendiary and baiting. WPWW is inherently racist.

They're unwelcome guests for just as many naturalized people here too..

Yeah, it's not the end all be all but America kind of beat down the white nationalists/neo nazi BS mid-80s late 90s. Im kind of proud the last time the KKK tried to rally the regular people had to have cops there because there were so many and they would have overwhelmed the racists White Nationalists/KKK/neo nazis

it doesn't ever go away it ebbs and flows after all a society is a living growing thing. 

But as far as organization it's probably growing but it isn't where it used to be in the 70s. 

and BTW lots of people read Mein Kampf... for a variety of reasons. We probably need a citation here.

Many authors do it has a historical value, but to think it translates to 2020s maybe in a mutated form at the very best. 

Logically that movement has waned a bit, and eco-terrorists have progressed a bit but none of those are top 5
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(03-13-2025, 03:32 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Unless it's J/6 or uniting the right, right?

You are misreading me here. I'm not loyal to any political party and I find them all to be lacking. My only comment on J6 would be that it appears that the punishments were enhanced for political reasons which can only happen if judges allow it to happen. Legislating from the Bench is a violation of their oath and transparently unconstitutional.

I could talk for hours about how corrupt both parties are. If you are expecting partisan bias from me, look elsewhere. I'm always clear about finding both parties lacking.

As always partisan madness interferes with anyone being able to have intelligent conversations about those who govern us.
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