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How to keep people from reading
#31
(10-04-2024, 12:07 AM)l0st Wrote: I would add another aspect to digitization: bitrot.

I just the other day found a CF card from and old digital camera that stopped working sometime around 2011. Sadly, nothing fantastic on the card, just a bunch of pictures of me looking like I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with the camera. However, all of the images showed signs of significant bitrot and some were completely inaccessible.

I think this is something to keep in mind.

All those things are considered when talking about digital preservation, along with format obsolescence. That's one of the reasons historical archives should save their scanned documents as uncompressed TIFFs, as that way the image can be shown even if some bits were damaged, while a compressed image needs to be completely good to be decompressed.
Or we can add parity files, but few people use them, as there is no real standard.
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#32
Just a quick video describing the fate of the Internet Archive...

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#33
Internet Archive's last update states the data is safe. Thumbup
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#34
well since this thread has wrapped up i will address the thread title and complain about audiobooks, especially how many books are now audible exclusive only no print edition. that is really annoying! i guess its a generational thing as many nongrey are used to "reading" books by listening on their phones while doing other things? which i just find really distracting and horrible as i read faster than people talk and its chipmonks if you speed it up. plus you cant like pause to contemplate or reread a goodbit. its also so strange that people can watch ticktocks with the obviously fake computer narration and not go aargh brainbleed.

all of that keeps people from reading. plus short attention span or hypono drone is not reading. bah i'm old.

here is book that peeved me off being audible only grr https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2193...nt-service
I followed the Science, and all I found was the Money.
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#35
(10-12-2024, 01:19 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: well since this thread has wrapped up i will address the thread title and complain about audiobooks, especially how many books are now audible exclusive only no print edition. that is really annoying!

Now that's the best way of stopping people from reading, not publishing.

Idiots.
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#36
Follow up - 

From ArsTechnica: The Internet Archive and its 916 billion saved web pages are back online

However... the books libraries are still off-line... Makes you wonder, no?

The Internet Archive has brought its Wayback Machine back online "in a provisional, read-only manner" as it continues to recover from attacks that took the site down last week, founder Brewster Kahle said in a post last night. The archive.org home page points users to the now-functional Wayback Machine but notes that other Internet Archive services are temporarily offline.

Kahle said it was "safe to resume" the Wayback Machine's operations, but that it "might need further maintenance, in which case it will be suspended again." The Wayback Machine's "Save Page Now" feature that lets users capture a webpage manually is currently unavailable. The related openlibrary.org book-preservation website was still offline today.

Founded in 1996, the nonprofit Internet Archive crawls the web to preserve pages that are publicly available and has captured 916 billion web pages so far. It has a staff of 150 people and also provides free access to many videos, audio files, and books (though it was recently forced to delete 500,000 books after losing a copyright case).


It makes me wonder about commerce war... lawfare... and rampant control schemes justified by "unrealized capital gains."
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#37
(10-12-2024, 01:19 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: i just find really distracting and horrible as i read faster than people talk and its chipmonks if you speed it up.

Maybe not an ideal solution, but if in a non-DRM format, you might be able to use audio playback software similar to what a DJ would use to change the speed of the audio without changing the pitch.

I used to own a pair of Pioneer CDJ-500G DJ CD players that could do this.

Virtual-DJ can do it. No idea if its still around. Runs on Windows. I don't use Windows.

(10-14-2024, 09:09 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Follow up - 

From ArsTechnica: The Internet Archive and its 916 billion saved web pages are back online

However... the books libraries are still off-line... Makes you wonder, no?

The Internet Archive has brought its Wayback Machine back online "in a provisional, read-only manner" as it continues to recover from attacks that took the site down last week, founder Brewster Kahle said in a post last night. The archive.org home page points users to the now-functional Wayback Machine but notes that other Internet Archive services are temporarily offline.

Kahle said it was "safe to resume" the Wayback Machine's operations, but that it "might need further maintenance, in which case it will be suspended again." The Wayback Machine's "Save Page Now" feature that lets users capture a webpage manually is currently unavailable. The related openlibrary.org book-preservation website was still offline today.

Founded in 1996, the nonprofit Internet Archive crawls the web to preserve pages that are publicly available and has captured 916 billion web pages so far. It has a staff of 150 people and also provides free access to many videos, audio files, and books (though it was recently forced to delete 500,000 books after losing a copyright case).


It makes me wonder about commerce war... lawfare... and rampant control schemes justified by "unrealized capital gains."

Sounds like they found an exploit in the "save page now" feature.

Lawfare might be part of it. I know of someone who had a youtube channel deleted playing 75-100 year old 78 RPM records that surely are long out of copyright, but copyright troll don't care! Neither does Goog.

(10-04-2024, 06:47 AM)ArMaP Wrote: All those things are considered when talking about digital preservation, along with format obsolescence. That's one of the reasons historical archives should save their scanned documents as uncompressed TIFFs, as that way the image can be shown even if some bits were damaged, while a compressed image needs to be completely good to be decompressed.
Or we can add parity files, but few people use them, as there is no real standard.

I believe TIFFs are actually technically compressed. I know its the same codec fax machines use. Bit failures though just result in random missing lines instead of total failure to display an image.

I would think that technically archive quality stuff should be in raw format. I found an old Canon Powershot 8MP that has real lenses and takes amazing pictures that can be loaded with a 3rd party firmware to have it store raw images. Each 8mp image is 8MB+.

ZFS seems to be the current "gold standard" for data archival. Provides all of the parity/crc/patrolling, etc to supposedly keep the datastore intact through these types of errors. I personally did not see any advantage over Ext4 and a competent RAID controller and its quite slow. When the sysadmin who ran the Solaris box quit, me and the other guy immediately dumped it and went back to RedHat on Ext4. We never lost any data.
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#38
(10-17-2024, 08:17 PM)l0st Wrote: I believe TIFFs are actually technically compressed. I know its the same codec fax machines use. Bit failures though just result in random missing lines instead of total failure to display an image.

No, the official version 6.0 TIFF uses 6 different types of compression (besides "none"):
CCITT Group 3
CCITT T.4
CCITT T.6
LZW
JPEG
PackBits (a kind of RLE compression)
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#39
The higher the fewer
I followed the Science, and all I found was the Money.
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#40
Why does Amazon have so many book categories? It makes it so that there are hundreds and hundreds of "#1 Bestseller" books.

My new favourite category: Children's Dystopian Science Fiction.

Or perhaps Teen & Young Adult Diversity & Multicultural Comics & Graphic Novels. There's only one book in there, but it's a #1 Bestseller!
I followed the Science, and all I found was the Money.
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