DEW attack in Canneto di Caronia?

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Hey thanks for your excellent input as you are light years beyond two Master Electrician's and the Owner of the "Wire Monkey" in Lexington, they do security cams and Home Theater Wiring. He said this same electrical zapping issues surround the entire lake Murray shoreline. He's 8 miles away across the lake on the Southern shoreline. One of his clients got an $20,000 stereo system zapped. 

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In 2017 I used test and found they had the Ground wired to Neutral in almost 12 receptacles. I corrected per Code. I also found that many wires were becoming loose from the receptacles. I am now wondering whether I should go through the entire house and replace all of them. He used some knock off brand that I never heard of. 

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Amen to you brother as your statement agrees with the Monkey +2 other Security System installers in Columbia, SC. Both of my neighbors deal in "stuff" One is a CEO and the other is an CPA + Lawyer. Would-Could a WIFI blaster disable a Android Smart Phone from taking a picture or a video. Why, because when they were moving a golf bag that had a slump in the center [without clubs] it appeared to have a human body in it. I tried to video and a picture  by the fooking camera malfunctioned several times. That's why I didn't contact the police! It happens often with "them" with my phone. I have 3 other witnesses to the golf bag thing on three separate times and days with others. One said its so horrific they have blocked it from their memory. Thoughts? 

So I went to Trail Cams. I cop I know said that those signals to the ATT or Verizon satellite can also be disabled! 

I suppose some external and unusual phenomenon can't be ruled out. I'm just think all the basics need to be covered first, even though it sounds like you have been trying to do that, as even if you got a paranormal society or some other org to investigate and actually get them to come out, they'll just be asking the same questions. Half tongue-in-cheek I am tempted ask "have all the neighbors around your lake used the same electrictian?" Maybe its worth a second or third opinion.

Ground wired to neutral at 12 outlets is a no-no. If the electrician your hired was responsible for this, I would immediately fire them. Typically, you only see this on old houses that have had the receptacles replaced to three prong outlets without the appropriate wiring upgrades. House would have to have been built 1970s or earlier to find something like this. If house was built later than that its a huge red flag about the wiring in the home. Loose wires are also definitely a problem.

With a simple voltmeter you should be able to check for ground loops by measuring between neutral and ground. If the bonding is proper, there should be no voltage present. If there is voltage between neutral and ground then there is a wiring problem somewhere. Circuits need to be on when testing this.

A wifi blaster shouldn't prevent a phone from taking pictures or videos. However, an extremely strong local source of RF interference could cause a smartphone to malfunction. Even something as simple as a CB radio could interfere. It would probably be at least 5W or greater though. Not something one carries in their pocket.

Any RF signal can be blocked with an appropriate jammer so Verizon or AT&T are also vulnerable. A standard Wifi jammer centers on 2.4 Ghz, but probably spits out garbage all across the spectrum. Providers that use PCS frequencies or AWS band phones would be most likely to be affected by such a jammer. Verizon doesn't use those frequencies at all to the best of my knowledge. AT&T does use PCS and some AWS in select markets, particularly in areas that were originally "cingular wireless." The "grandaddy" original AT&T network is 850Mhz same as Verizon.

[Waterglass]

I suppose some external and unusual phenomenon can't be ruled out. I'm just think all the basics need to be covered first, even though it sounds like you have been trying to do that, as even if you got a paranormal society or some other org to investigate and actually get them to come out, they'll just be asking the same questions. Half tongue-in-cheek I am tempted ask "have all the neighbors around your lake used the same electrictian?" Maybe its worth a second or third opinion.

Ground wired to neutral at 12 outlets is a no-no. If the electrician your hired was responsible for this, I would immediately fire them. Typically, you only see this on old houses that have had the receptacles replaced to three prong outlets without the appropriate wiring upgrades. House would have to have been built 1970s or earlier to find something like this. If house was built later than that its a huge red flag about the wiring in the home. Loose wires are also definitely a problem.

With a simple voltmeter you should be able to check for ground loops by measuring between neutral and ground. If the bonding is proper, there should be no voltage present. If there is voltage between neutral and ground then there is a wiring problem somewhere. Circuits need to be on when testing this.

A wifi blaster shouldn't prevent a phone from taking pictures or videos. However, an extremely strong local source of RF interference could cause a smartphone to malfunction. Even something as simple as a CB radio could interfere. It would probably be at least 5W or greater though. Not something one carries in their pocket.

Any RF signal can be blocked with an appropriate jammer so Verizon or AT&T are also vulnerable. A standard Wifi jammer centers on 2.4 Ghz, but probably spits out garbage all across the spectrum. Providers that use PCS frequencies or AWS band phones would be most likely to be affected by such a jammer. Verizon doesn't use those frequencies at all to the best of my knowledge. AT&T does use PCS and some AWS in select markets, particularly in areas that were originally "cingular wireless." The "grandaddy" original AT&T network is 850Mhz same as Verizon.

Thanks MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, all homes didn't use the same electrician. 

I am now wondering about the boat radios as 50+ pleasure boats pass by here daily.

I will now replace all OEM receptacles as the home was built in 1994. I plugged in a charger into a garage receptacle yesterday and sparks came out from the hot prong slot. Not a few sparks but a couple of seconds worth of sparks. I may also replace the switches as I already replaced 25 in the home as this guy was "Mr. Dimmer". He had over 30 dimmers in the home so he was a Don Juan with the ladies? Those were the old $3 round cheapo ones. A hole also used them to control the ceiling fan fan. He is who I think wired the home as he considered himself a "Handyman"  Yea, right Handyman WRONG! I am surprised he hasn't had a fire here but this is all on me now and I am bringing all up to Code. The home used to be like the Munsters when the HVAC came on. Lights dimming and flickering. Had that fixed in 2020 with two Siemens Panels and all new Breakers and Eaton Whole Home Surge Protection in the Panels. 

I also know of two receptacles in the home that aren't grounded. I tried all but ???? The Master Electrician said that the entire wall sheet of drywall would have to be removed to determine as to WTF is going on. I will do that as I don't need him for that as do my own drywall and I can wire. I also have several testers and I don't buy junk. 

My families safety is #1. Same for my dock and any transient voltage. I ripped out all their dock wiring in 2019. It was compromised big time.

PS: A a point of reference this prior homeowner who had it custom built in 1994 was a graduate Electrical Engineer, Pennsylvania State University and a Safety Manager at a local Nuclear Plant.  IMO a regular in real life time Homer Simpson. Everything in the home was cobbled with garage sale junk. Lights, toilets and electrical supplies. 

Here's one of my "wins". The Master Bath was so filthy we NEVER used it until I remodeled. I designed and did the drawings along with 75% of the labor.  Its all Travertine and cultured marble. I landed it all for $36,000 as I was the Master Contractor under the County Building Permit. IMO its glam enough to do porn movies. Ha. 

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Exactly! Knowledge is always a step to get even more knowledge.


One thing about capturing strange phenomena on camera is that using more than one camera, if possible, will give us much more information, specially if the cameras have some kind of synchronised clock and are relatively far apart, as that, along with some trigonometry calculations can give distance/altitude/speed/etc.

I have three wired RING cams. Two are offline. I can bring back online. I also have two Trail Cams that aren't WIFI and satellite connected with Verizon. My wheels are spinning.

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I also know of two receptacles in the home that aren't grounded. I tried all but ???? The Master Electrician said that the entire wall sheet of drywall would have to be removed to determine as to WTF is going on. I will do that as I don't need him for that as do my own drywall and I can wire. I also have several testers and I don't buy junk. 

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PS: A a point of reference this prior homeowner who had it custom built in 1994 was a graduate Electrical Engineer, Pennsylvania State University and a Safety Manager at a local Nuclear Plant.  IMO a regular in real life time Homer Simpson. Everything in the home was cobbled with garage sale junk. Lights, toilets and electrical supplies. 

Here's one of my "wins". The Master Bath was so filthy we NEVER used it until I remodeled. I designed and did the drawings along with 75% of the labor.  Its all Travertine and cultured marble. I landed it all for $36,000 as I was the Master Contractor under the County Building Permit. IMO its glam enough to do porn movies. Ha. 

https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...123941.jpg

Sounds like the electrician might suspect that there are problems with the wiring inside the wall. From what you describe finding so far with the Rube Goldberg install I wouldn't be surprised if there are junctions inside the wall that may or may not be properly connected and there shouldn't be any at all anyways.

An electrical engineer does not an electrician make. Related field of study, but electrical engineers usually design motors and electronic circuits and whatnot, not install high voltage wiring. What you're describing with ground wired to neutral was definitely not code compliant in 1994 when the house was built. The only real solution to the would be to pull the proper wiring. Sparks flying from outlets sounds like the voltage is way too high on whatever leg of the service that circuit is on. 

Very nice job on the bathroom remodel. Want to come do mine? Hahaha

[Waterglass]

Sounds like the electrician might suspect that there are problems with the wiring inside the wall. From what you describe finding so far with the Rube Goldberg install I wouldn't be surprised if there are junctions inside the wall that may or may not be properly connected and there shouldn't be any at all anyways.

An electrical engineer does not an electrician make. Related field of study, but electrical engineers usually design motors and electronic circuits and whatnot, not install high voltage wiring. What you're describing with ground wired to neutral was definitely not code compliant in 1994 when the house was built. The only real solution to the would be to pull the proper wiring. Sparks flying from outlets sounds like the voltage is way too high on whatever leg of the service that circuit is on. 

Very nice job on the bathroom remodel. Want to come do mine? Hahaha

Thanks

Yes, Rube Goldberg to the EXtreme!

I have my Monster Surge Box + Voltage Conditioner on the other side of the garage wall in the Man Cave. The Monster has a live voltage readout. Post Dominion Energy the on ground Transformer box removal and positional reinstall using old transformer but with new underground electrical conduit from their other transformer I am now seeing a constant daytime voltage of 123 to 124 volts.  They cut a huge tree down that "compromised" their box last August 2023. It was on a 35 degree angle. In the South their quick fix on anything such as water pressure and voltage is to crank it up and to hell with the homeowner. 

What has changed is the 100's of millisecond power outages are now fewer versus the 100's we used to get pre Transformer positioning that we used to have. I wonder if that 30 + something year old transformer is bad? I think that one underground Transformer is for three homes

I wonder what the reading is at night? I will take a look and do some research. I owned that box since 2008 when I bought a Pioneer Elite Plasma TV. I have never seen the voltage this high until the last 4 months.

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Thanks

Yes, Rube Goldberg to the EXtreme!

I have my Monster Surge Box + Voltage Conditioner on the other side of the garage wall in the Man Cave. The Monster has a live voltage readout. Post Dominion Energy the on ground Transformer box removal and positional reinstall using old transformer but with new underground electrical conduit from their other transformer I am now seeing a constant daytime voltage of 123 to 124 volts.  They cut a huge tree down that "compromised" their box last August 2023. It was on a 35 degree angle. In the South their quick fix on anything such as water pressure and voltage is to crank it up and to hell with the homeowner. 

What has changed is the 100's of millisecond power outages are now fewer versus the 100's we used to get pre Transformer positioning that we used to have. I wonder if that 30 + something year old transformer is bad? I think that one underground Transformer is for three homes

I wonder what the reading is at night? I will take a look and do some research. I owned that box since 2008 when I bought a Pioneer Elite Plasma TV. I have never seen the voltage this high until the last 4 months.

Most states have a public utilities commission that regulates the power quality. They should have specifications published for acceptable power fluctuations. National Electric Code specifies 3% drop. Service voltage should be +5.8% to -8.3% for system operating 600V and below per ANSI and my experience is that most PUCs are somewhere in that ballpark. That would give a usable range at the feed to the panel of 100V to 127V, assuming you're on a standard single-phase 240V system. Some places out in the country or commercial use a 3-phase Wye and the voltages are lower, nominal is something like 115V and 208V. In most states, one can make a complaint to this board if the voltages are out of spec and the power company is legally required to address it. If the transformer is any good, all they typically have to do is adjust the taps on the transformer. It could get hairy there... in some states the power company owns the transformers and in others, the users of the transformer "own" it and would be responsible for paying to replace it if its bad(probably $20K).

Voltage is likely to go up at night. Most of the electronic equipment I've dealt with, particularly if made in the last 25 years, has a switch mode power supply and will run okay on anything from about 85VAC to 135VAC. If its built for international sale, it probably even works up to about 250 VAC or so. Older stuff with linear power supplies (quite possibly your stereo amplifiers) and transformers will run hot if the voltage is too high and eventually burn up or have reduced lifespan.

[Waterglass]

Most states have a public utilities commission that regulates the power quality. They should have specifications published for acceptable power fluctuations. National Electric Code specifies 3% drop. Service voltage should be +5.8% to -8.3% for system operating 600V and below per ANSI and my experience is that most PUCs are somewhere in that ballpark. That would give a usable range at the feed to the panel of 100V to 127V, assuming you're on a standard single-phase 240V system. Some places out in the country or commercial use a 3-phase Wye and the voltages are lower, nominal is something like 115V and 208V. In most states, one can make a complaint to this board if the voltages are out of spec and the power company is legally required to address it. If the transformer is any good, all they typically have to do is adjust the taps on the transformer. It could get hairy there... in some states the power company owns the transformers and in others, the users of the transformer "own" it and would be responsible for paying to replace it if its bad(probably $20K).

Voltage is likely to go up at night. Most of the electronic equipment I've dealt with, particularly if made in the last 25 years, has a switch mode power supply and will run okay on anything from about 85VAC to 135VAC. If its built for international sale, it probably even works up to about 250 VAC or so. Older stuff with linear power supplies (quite possibly your stereo amplifiers) and transformers will run hot if the voltage is too high and eventually burn up or have reduced lifespan.

I read that 124V is considered "acceptable" within the +/- range. The Power Company owns the Transformer as they paid to have the tree removed along with the removal and reinstallation of the Transformer. I will send them an email anyway as the voltage used to be around 121V and has since gone up. 

Older stuff with linear power supplies (quite possibly your stereo amplifiers) and transformers will run hot if the voltage is too high and eventually burn up or have reduced lifespan.

I recall when the owner of Wire Monkey was here he said they install voltage conditioners to stop the above. They even do it on all security cameras as wired on 120V lines. He does installs for retired FEDS including FBI agents.  That's when he mentioned a client who had $20,000 of Stereo equipment fried. So your comment seems to parallel his as he held back in telling me what he really knew was going on. Now its all adding up.

Sounds to me that 1st I need to get a another voltage conditioner for the upstairs 65" flat screen HDTV and other electronic components as I do have a new NILES SI-1230 and several other $$ components all connected. Then email the Power Company as you never know what they already know but aren't saying anything until someone stumbles onto something. That's why they went nuts on the tree when I complained about 100's of millisecond outages per year. One supervisor told me that that the actual transformers circuit breaker within the transformer box tripping! Seems to me the tree was stressing the underground line? Back to voltage I mean how many people here have what I have to do a visual quick look at real time voltage?  Pic attached.

Monster: 

https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...104531.jpg

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I read that 124V is considered "acceptable" within the +/- range. The Power Company owns the Transformer as they paid to have the tree removed along with the removal and reinstallation of the Transformer. I will send them an email anyway as the voltage used to be around 121V and has since gone up. 

Older stuff with linear power supplies (quite possibly your stereo amplifiers) and transformers will run hot if the voltage is too high and eventually burn up or have reduced lifespan.

I recall when the owner of Wire Monkey was here he said they install voltage conditioners to stop the above. They even do it on all security cameras as wired on 120V lines. He does installs for retired FEDS including FBI agents.  That's when he mentioned a client who had $20,000 of Stereo equipment fried. So your comment seems to parallel his as he held back in telling me what he really knew was going on. Now its all adding up.

Sounds to me that 1st I need to get a another voltage conditioner for the upstairs 65" flat screen HDTV and other electronic components as I do have a new NILES SI-1230 and several other $$ components all connected. Then email the Power Company as you never know what they already know but aren't saying anything until someone stumbles onto something. That's why they went nuts on the tree when I complained about 100's of millisecond outages per year. One supervisor told me that that the actual transformers circuit breaker within the transformer box tripping! Seems to me the tree was stressing the underground line? Back to voltage I mean how many people here have what I have to do a visual quick look at real time voltage?  Pic attached.

Monster: 

https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...104531.jpg

Well, you have decent taste in audio equipment. :)

124V would be acceptable. I wouldn't have them adjust down for that, but if it goes over 127 V (like at night) there is a problem.

Circuit breakers work on amperage draw. If the breaker at the transformer is tripping then that's indicative of a short to ground, and a big one. I could see a tree doing that if it was grown into the transformer box. Maybe the lines are damaged elsewhere as well since they supposedly replaced all of it?

I'm not sure how much the monster power line conditioners are, but a cheap APC SmartUPS (make sure you get one with this feature) will adjust for out of spec voltage swings on its own with the added benefit that if the power goes out, its also a battery backup. Only downside is batteries will need to be changed every 3 years or so or maybe sooner if there are constant outages.

Its possible to put a line conditioner at the demarc (main service) that works for the whole house. Probably megabucks, though. It really shouldn't be necessary, but if you can't get the Power Co to do anything then it may be your only option.

Of course, there could still be alien spaceships docking in the lake :)

[Karl12]

Similar case from Spain in 1945.

Unexplained phenomena on several farms in the village of Laroya in Spain in 1945, and in Canneto di Caronia in Italy from 2004

Did UFOs start fires?

Also enjoyed this interview on 'spontaneous human combustion' and the dubious debunkery surrounding the phenomenon.

[Karl12]

Don't know if what was going on in Canneto di Caronia had anything to do with EM fields but this old Cook Report from 1987 also contained a few parallels.











Also some possibly related info below on EMF effects on humans (and how it was covered up), the Russian US embassy microwave attack and Dr Robert Becker's opinion on the woodpecker signal.

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Don't know if what was going on in Canneto di Caronia had anything to do with EM fields but this old Cook Report from 1987 also contained a few parallels.

Also some possibly related info below on EMF effects on humans (and how it was covered up), the Russian US embassy microwave attack and Dr Robert Becker's opinion on the woodpecker signal.

I remember the hysteria in the US in the late 80's/early 90's over EMFs. Everything from clock radios to microwaves to VCRs. While it is known that EMFs can cause strange mental phenomena in short range at strong field strength, those fields drop off logarithmically by distance. I've always though the potential effects of these to be quite overblown in normal use cases, much like all the noise about cell phones and brain cancer, which they are now finding has no real scientific basis.

The "Russian Woodpecker" has been offline since the collapse of the USSR. It was an over-the-horizon advanced missile warning radar system called Duga.