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Elizondo CIA UFO Op?
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If you've been watching the corporate media recently you may have seen 'UFO whistleblower' Luis Elizondo being interviewed by paid actors to promote his new book.

Don't know if he's 'controlled opposition' but lots of people in UFO research simply do not trust this guy and thought there was a pretty awesome breakdown in the video below explaining why.

Journalist Daniel Liszt goes into quite some detail on behind the scenes CIA shenanigans, Elizondo's background, Intel spook TTSA antics and NYT media manipulation of the 'UFO threat narrative'.

Other questionable characters include Semivan, Brennan, Woolsey and Podesta so would say the vid is well worth a watch if you have any interest in UFOs (or psychological operations).









From 4:00





Quote:• "So let's go over it - biographical movies; your own TV series on the History Channel for two years; a big book deal and all the rest.. that's not how whistleblowers are treated."

Journalist Daniel Liszt







Would also say this vid gives a good breakdown of the rather dodgy reality behind the CIA TTSA UFO team - some of which have disturbing MKUltra connections.









From 11:00


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#2
Some get money by selling books, some by putting videos in YouTube.

I avoid them all. I want facts, not people. Smile
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Forget where I saw this but....

Elizondo NOT a whistleblower or Grush. The fact being both got their info vetted by Dopser or IGA prior to speaking in public. A Whistleblower is someone who breaks their Oath or Security Clearance to make information public. 
(IGA may be the wrong acronym? but you know what I mean)

Might have been on the recent Danny Sheehan interview over on Jesse Michels channel.
Regardless it's time we call a spade a spade. 
If factions in the govt (Mellon,et al) want us to look at UFO's-Uap's what is it they DON'T want us looking at, hmmmm????
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(09-04-2024, 05:37 PM)jaded Wrote: Forget where I saw this but....

Elizondo NOT a whistleblower or Grush. The fact being both got their info vetted by Dopser or IGA prior to speaking in public. A Whistleblower is someone who breaks their Oath or Security Clearance to make information public.

(IGA may be the wrong acronym? but you know what I mean)



Hola mate, good to see you and thanks for addressing the content - yes I do know what you mean and it gets a bit technical for me at times but JGJ goes into detail here about inconsistencies surrounding the new (Grusch) UFO narrative, DOD DOPSER protocols and the UAP Security Classification Guide (link).

Regarding Elizondo and the usual suspects in the corporate media promoting this counterintelligence CIA operative as a 'heroic whistleblower' also found it relevant that he's now claiming to be a victim of 'whistleblower reprisal' whilst simultaneously accusing others who question his motives of 'malicious activities' and 'coordinated disinformation'.

As Liszt mentions in that video Elizondo has also been given a ridiculously easy ride during mainstream interviews and has never really been grilled on all the inconsistencies surrounding his 'narrative' - the one time a real question was asked by a phone in caller he actually lost it and called the guy's mum a prostitute lol.

Could be wrong but all these antics feel extremely 'stage managed' to me and thought some good points were made below about 'drama' and the 'astronomical counter-intelligence value' of all this UFO theatre.
















PS.

Also looks like they are going after the kids and trying to set Lue up as a future authority on the topic (screenshot taken from 'online schooling' way back during lockdown).







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I find it amazing, that everywhere in the relevant media, both intentionally and presumably organically, 'drama' is almost always "inserted" into the story.  Almost as if the story itself didn't suffice to capture an audience.

Some may say it is a natural development of human interaction.  Some may say that it is consequence of the self-policing aspect of the kind of collective information gathering that is going on.  Perhaps even more might think this is going to exist, as a function of the audience itself, as consumers of information we're exerting pressure on the narrative to conform to a human story.  I wonder if it isn't an indicator of the 'produced' nature of the narrative brought before us.

Some of the protagonists in these accounts are awfully suspect, from a certain perspective... after all, they are 'making a living' from the activities in which they are engaged publicly.  Not meaning that it is unreasonable or indicative of a con, only that it must never be forgotten as an aspect of the tellers story, should it be the case.

There are many who present alleged evidence, mostly well-vetted; who cannot help but fall into the spotlight... but those that choose to remain in the spotlight do conjure up the specter of insincerity... especially when their personalities and personal accounts become embroiled in 'the drama.'

Personally, I think we should have no need for "UFO celebrities;" so whenever it seems that some publicist, or producer, is crafting a series of appearances on 'the circuit,' I become hesitant with my enthusiasm.  There's a significant difference between the 'teller' of the story... and the story itself.  When the teller 'steps into' the story, I feel it requires a different set of listening skills.
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(09-05-2024, 03:16 AM)Maxmars Wrote: I find it amazing, that everywhere in the relevant media, both intentionally and presumably organically, 'drama' is almost always "inserted" into the story. 



Ah yes some major dramas involving this chap mate - remember one where he was threatening JGJ with legal action over a video he'd never even bothered to watch - quite fishy behaviour if you ask me.




VIDEO




There are other examples out there and maybe he just likes the attention but he certainly gets a bit melodramatic (and nasty) when someone points out contradictions or questions his back history.

As for the journalists giving him an easy ride and never (not once) probing him with hard, direct questions there's a relevant article here by the late German author Udo Ulfkotte (RIP).



"Non-Official Cover” – Respected German Journalist Blows Whistle on How the CIA Controls the Media



Don't know if you've seen it (and I know I've posted it before) but there's also a relevant presentation here from the late American author Terry Hansen (RIP).

It deals with UFOs, the CIA and the stark reality of corporate media collusion - deception strategies, precision propaganda and the cultivation of 'pseudo environments' are also covered.








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I came across this video and found it thought provoking. It’s an interview with a very well connected lawyer by the name of Danny Sheehan. I don’t recall ever hearing about him before. He just so happened to represent Elizondo — and MANY other intriguing characters ‘in the know’. As you can see by the title ‘The Man Involved in Every American Conspiracy’ — it’s right up all our ally’s. 

It is 3 hours long. Thankfully, it is broken up into portions by title. So you can skip the topics you aren’t interested in. For me, that was ‘Watergate’. The bummer is, it does hop around a bit. Delving back and forth a bit by topic. Thankfully, for this thread, the majority is about ‘aliens’ and covers a bit about Elizondo.

While I disagree with him about certain aspects of the topic, I still gleaned VERY much! I could write much more about it, there’s just too mush there. Maybe it deserves its own thread, as it’s ALL OVER THE PLACE.  I also thought the interviewer was quite knowledgeable and asked thought provoking questions.

SPOILER::::::::::::::::: He discloses the broad strokes of the Kennedy assassination! I thought it made more sense than anything else I’ve heard. 

Enjoy the rabbit hole…..

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(09-05-2024, 03:42 PM)KKLoco Wrote: I came across this video and found it thought provoking. It’s an interview with a very well connected lawyer by the name of Danny Sheehan. I don’t recall ever hearing about him before. He just so happened to represent Elizondo — and MANY other intriguing characters ‘in the know’. As you can see by the title ‘The Man Involved in Every American Conspiracy’ — it’s right up all our ally’s. 

It is 3 hours long. Thankfully, it is broken up into portions by title. So you can skip the topics you aren’t interested in. For me, that was ‘Watergate’. The bummer is, it does hop around a bit. Delving back and forth a bit by topic. Thankfully, for this thread, the majority is about ‘aliens’ and covers a bit about Elizondo.

While I disagree with him about certain aspects of the topic, I still gleaned VERY much! I could write much more about it, there’s just too mush there. Maybe it deserves its own thread, as it’s ALL OVER THE PLACE.  I also thought the interviewer was quite knowledgeable and asked thought provoking questions.

SPOILER::::::::::::::::: He discloses the broad strokes of the Kennedy assassination! I thought it made more sense than anything else I’ve heard. 

Enjoy the rabbit hole…..

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SQXAPCdmPE]

That was Jesse Michels an the video I was refering to when I stated Elizondo & Grush don't fit the definition of whistleblowers. SOOOOO glad you found American Alchemy!! He's done some very good interviews in the past year. 

Sheehan does ramble, but it's to get you ALL the information so eventually he does get back to the point. It's been cracking me up everyone is waiting for Trump to release the UFO files an here's Sheehan, just spilling the beans. The really wild part was when he told Michels he'd refused security clearences precisely so he could say whatever he wants without getting muzzled. 
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(09-05-2024, 03:42 PM)KKLoco Wrote: I came across this video and found it thought provoking. It’s an interview with a very well connected lawyer by the name of Danny Sheehan.



Never been too sure about Sheehan mate but thanks for posting and will give it a watch when I get the chance.

Yes the guy is Elizondo's lawyer and don't mean to sound too cynical but he's also been a pretty fanatical proponent of the ETH over the years and founded the 'New Paradigm Institute' where you can actually do a 'graduate degree' in 'Extraterrestrial Studies'.

Apparently the Masters PhD is only 16600 dollars.



Graduate Degree Programs in Extraterrestrial Studies



Sheehan founded this institute (which is a subsidiary of the Romero Institute) with Jesuit priest William J. Davis.

The reason I bring that up is that Sheehan was also General Counsel for the Jesuit Office of Social Ministries 'on matters pertaining to UFOs' back in the 1970's.

Apparently the Jesuits are neck deep in the modern day disclosure movement (along with the Rockefellers) and from what I've read about these two groups it's never good when they plot long term agendas.



Why are the Rockefellers and the Jesuits guiding the UFO Disclosure Movement?



Would really recommend that article with regard to Jesuit involvement and it's also brought up in the video below.

Laurance Rockefeller’s antics with Kissenger, Greer, Podesta and the Clintons (and the still semi restricted 'Special Studies Project') are also discussed.







From 19:20





Beer
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(09-05-2024, 03:16 AM)Maxmars Wrote: There's a significant difference between the 'teller' of the story... and the story itself


There surely is mate and more historical drama below when Lue and Mellon could simply not get their stories straight.








• Vid sourced by Gortex





Quote:For many years, The Black Vault has followed the story behind the release of the "now infamous" UFO videos known as the FLIR1, Gimbal and GoFast.

This video is a compilation of the two key figures telling us all how those videos came out into the open, and sadly, the stories wildly differ.







Apparently Lue was 'Director of Global Security & Special Programs' for the CIA TTSA but now probably still works for the US Gov.

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