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Trump shot?
(07-19-2024, 09:32 AM)FlyingClayDisk Wrote: This is why I pointed out to you yesterday that it was a separate machine parked behind the Deere tractor in most of the images.  Remember, most of the images of the stage area are taken from the vantage point of the audience in the crowd area, not the vantage point of the shooter which was considerably different.

edit - The animated version of the boom lift isn't really too accurate, the machine doesn't look quite like that, but for the purposes of the animation it works fine.  The boom portion is accurate, but the cab and running gear part of the machine actually looks different.

Thanks you were spot on on all. Its now being reported that this guy has a 2nd phone with 25 contacts internationally. The FEDS in charge can really play with this. They can make it up as they go along or tell the truth. 

Excuse me while I throw up
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(07-20-2024, 12:43 PM)boredhere74 Wrote: Is there anything besides wild ass guesses that shows a different trajectory for any of the shots? If there is link it please, I would like to see it. And as far as different sound, it is possible that there were slightly different loads, even if came from the same box. More common with cheap subsonic loads.


I'm probably wrong, but I think if it is an inside job, they were betting too much on him making the shot. If he did, there would be no need for a next step, high percent of biden reelected. But since he didnt, way too many varibles came up, and no answers due to lazy thinking, which seems to be the norm. If he made the shot, no one would see how inept the SS agents were, no questions why no drones, limited coverage, etc.

Totally fair.

It does seem as though the admin has a “plan only for victory” mindset.

I appreciate the bravado it is foolish thinking to assume something is 100% going to work.

As an example, sports history is littered with people missing/failing very simple acts at pivotal times that cost them victory. Very simple mistakes.

Maybe it’s my background in risk management but IMO you always have to make contingencies. And the larger the impact, the more you need to be prepared. So that drives my thinking.

The MSM and Admin seemed caught pretty flat footed regarding what to do next after this happened.

My point above was to say they DID plan only for victory… and that victory plan likely had some other facets to it that didn’t materialize.


If you can identify those other parts of the victory plan you learn a lot about who was involved or behind this.
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(07-20-2024, 01:05 PM)Waterglass Wrote: Thanks you were spot on on all. Its now being reported that this guy has a 2nd phone with 25 contacts internationally. The FEDS in charge can really play with this. They can make it up as they go along or tell the truth. 

Excuse me while I throw up

Where did you see the report on the 2nd phone with the international contacts?  I haven't been able to find that.

Depending on what those contacts are, this could be a major development.  Most 20 year olds don't have any contacts outside the US unless it's Canada or Mexico, or unless they were some kind of an exchange student (which I haven't seen any reports of for Crooks).
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@FCD,

Replying from my phone so I can’t directly reply to you.

Yes, two phones confirmed. One on him and one at the house. The one at the house only had 25 contacts. I did not hear that they were foreign contacts, though. Most MSM are reporting on this.

Also yes. He was an exchange student - but not foreign. I read that a few days ago.
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(07-20-2024, 01:46 PM)VulcanWerks Wrote: Totally fair.

It does seem as though the admin has a “plan only for victory” mindset.

I appreciate the bravado it is foolish thinking to assume something is 100% going to work.

As an example, sports history is littered with people missing/failing very simple acts at pivotal times that cost them victory. Very simple mistakes.

Maybe it’s my background in risk management but IMO you always have to make contingencies. And the larger the impact, the more you need to be prepared. So that drives my thinking.

The MSM and Admin seemed caught pretty flat footed regarding what to do next after this happened.

My point above was to say they DID plan only for victory… and that victory plan likely had some other facets to it that didn’t materialize.


If you can identify those other parts of the victory plan you learn a lot about who was involved or behind this.

Well I'm just a simple thinker, but when you try to kill a presidential candidate that currently isnt in office, there's really not alot of people that would actually benefit from it happening aside from the political rival or a personal grudge. Then who would have the most means to make it happen. Just my idea.
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(07-20-2024, 03:36 PM)boredhere74 Wrote: Well I'm just a simple thinker, but when you try to kill a presidential candidate that currently isnt in office, there's really not alot of people that would actually benefit from it happening aside from the political rival or a personal grudge. Then who would have the most means to make it happen. Just my idea.

Good point(s)!

Things that make you go....Hmmmmmmm...
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(07-20-2024, 03:36 PM)boredhere74 Wrote: Well I'm just a simple thinker, but when you try to kill a presidential candidate that currently isnt in office, there's really not alot of people that would actually benefit from it happening aside from the political rival or a personal grudge. Then who would have the most means to make it happen. Just my idea.

I’m not sure if this is some subtle or snarky callout but if it it is I’d rather you be direct.
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(07-20-2024, 07:20 AM)KKLoco Wrote: Then why do the first 3 shots lack echoes, and the 5 shots that come seconds later do not?

The first 3 shots do not lack echoes, in fact, they have a lot of echo.

Watch the video below and tell me what you think, do the shots from the first group sound like the shots the second or not? Does the sound waves of both groups look similar or not?

One thing I found strange when looking at the sound waves was that the second group appears to have a shot doesn't appear to have an echo, around 1:01 on the video below.



To help the comparison, here are the images of the three groups.

First group.

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Second group.

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Last shot, the one I think was fired by the counter-snipper team to kill the shooter.

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PS: The sound was taken from the video at https://www.itemfix.com/v?t=9048fs
I used Audacity for the visualisation of the sound waves.
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(07-20-2024, 05:42 PM)VulcanWerks Wrote: I’m not sure if this is some subtle or snarky callout but if it it is I’d rather you be direct.

Nope not in the slightest. just an opinion. Pretty much some of the high points that you made.
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Continuing my previous post, here are two images comparing one shot from the first group (the second shot, so we don't have the Trump's voice interfering with the shot sound) with the first shot from the second group.

First group, second shot.
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Second group, first shot.
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As we can see they look very similar, both in the echoes and in the frequencies (seen on the spectrogram above the waveform), so I think either only one gun was used or two identical guns with identical ammunition that were close to each other.

PS: Looking at the first image we can see that the sound of the shot and consequent echoes has a duration of 0.3 seconds. The shots of the second group were fired at an interval shorter than 0.3 seconds, so we have some the end of an echo mixing with the next shot.
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