I support abortion because I don't think rapists should be allowed to be fathers

[BeTheGoddess]

Don't know.
all I know is that forcing a woman to abort her baby is worse than raping her.

If its in there its in Leviticus, and there is some weird rules, like if your brother dies youhave to take his wife as yours. Which if you break that down, it just means you look after your brothers family if they die.

The only way it would be mentioned IMHO would be educing miscarriage rather than the coathanger methd.

Ginger is said to be good for morning sickness but apparently too much with enduce it. But yeah it would be herbal, not physical.

[Bootless]

all I know is that forcing a woman to abort her baby is worse than raping her.

I'm just comparing sets of morals.
After all, in Deuteronomy 22:28-29 some hard up rapist can get a wife by merely paying her father some money. Notice, the rape victim doesn't have a say in the matter.

As far as my moral compass is concerned:
a girl's or woman's choice should extend to whether she gets raped, married, aborts, or carries to term.

Sometimes I think adultery should be a capital offence, just sometimes, repeat offenders mostly.

[tellmethesecrets]

Every pregnancy that is a result of rape should be terminated. Nothing anyone can say will ever make me feel otherwise.

This is disgusting.

I am against abortion and if I was raped I still wouldn't have an abortion, I would view it as something beautiful that was born from something horrid... A silver lining if you like. 

I also believe that a woman should seek medical help immediately if raped, and offered a pill to halt conception if she doesn't want any pregnancy to occur.  Therefore, no abortion required.

[Maxmars]

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So what I'm saying is in the event of impregnation by rape - abortion should be mandatory.

What makes you believe that a child should be killed?

Being a "father" is not a typical rape objective. 

Procreation by force is... well.... kind of an anachronism from an ancient time... 

Rapists would be better punished to be forced to bear the burdens of fatherhood and reap no rewards.


I can't really embrace the message here.
If I truly feel no child's life should ever be terminated...
how do I contrive an "except when..."?


In all of this... the choice is not mine to make... to demand... to cajole or regulate... frankly, it shouldn't even be mine to know...

I have to accept that in some way unconnected to me, that choice presents itself...

Is it about the child?  The rapist? The woman who dares to cherish the child?
Do you think the child "is about" the rape?  Some "mark of shame?"

It is a child. 
And any judgement you cast upon it, at this point, is a sinful thing to do to an innocent.

All of the above speaks not to pro-choice, or pro-life.... but the recognition that some things are not the business of the world to adjudicate.

[Stealth Blimp]

The objective of the rapist isn't to become a father but that's exactly what he achieved if he impregnated the woman.

I've had some quite emotional responses on this thread yet have remained reserved but on a personal level why should a rapists child get to live yet my child will never exist because women don't find me sexually attractive?!

[argentus]

Regarding abortion, I think this:    I think a woman, at any point in her life, should be able to abort a fetus, if that is her choice.   I don't enjoy the ideal that a life has been murdered, but I think there are far too many people on the surface of this Earth.   I think any woman should have a right to abort her pregnancy.   I am appalled at the idea that a woman who was raped should be required to abort her fetus.  I think choice really matters.   

I have many friends that vehemently disagree with me.   It's okay.  We love each other still.

[Stealth Blimp]

Regarding abortion, I think this:    I think a woman, at any point in her life, should be able to abort a fetus, if that is her choice.   I don't enjoy the ideal that a life has been murdered, but I think there are far too many people on the surface of this Earth.   I think any woman should have a right to abort her pregnancy.   I am appalled at the idea that a woman who was raped should be required to abort her fetus.  I think choice really matters.   

I have many friends that vehemently disagree with me.   It's okay.  We love each other still.

Bravo sir!

[DBCowboy]

 

I've had some quite emotional responses on this thread yet have remained reserved but on a personal level why should a rapists child get to live yet my child will never exist because women don't find me sexually attractive?!

That statement is imminently personal.

[Maxmars]

Is this about resentment that a rapist "gets to" to reproduce while many don't even "get" the chance?
To me the "reproduction" you speak of is about raising children... nothing related to 'preserving genes.'
So we're bound for a contextual collision. 

If I travel this road, I want to know that you realize the context of the conversation I think I'm having.

I don't want to further agitate you, which may be an unfair inference, but I don't want you to give too much weight to what I think... I want to assert and be confident you accept, this is not personal, nor a challenge or threat... it's a thought exercise, meant maybe to help us understand one another.

Your posts have all represented themselves as a tacit "prepared to defend myself" pronouncement...  I get that this seems as logical a direct approach as any, to express what you will, in anticipation of answers.  Perhaps you do that intentionally, as bait, or a lure ... to what end I won't venture a guess.  There is no competition afoot.

This echo of relationship yearning keeps rearing up... to be seen.  You may not have a partner, but you never have to be alone. 

Pick a day to NOT focus on it... Your life can only take the shape of what you focus on... 
You're obviously smart, you express yourself well... that's already more than average, isn't it?

Whomever you are being passed over for aren't "the problems." The woman you seek isn't "the problem."
There must be a problem right?

I don't think you can judge a thing a problem only because you can't have it when you want it.

There may be no problem at all.

[cherokeetroy]

Why is abortion a hotter issue than children who are murdered every day as casualties of evils like war and trafficking