I support abortion because I don't think rapists should be allowed to be fathers

[FlyersFan]

Why is abortion a hotter issue than children who are murdered every day as casualties of evils like war and trafficking

All three can be a hot issue at once.
Don't have to pick just one to talk about.

[Stealth Blimp]

WOW.  

The rapists child gets to live because that child is an innocent human being and doesn't deserve to die because of the sin of the father.

And the second half of that exposes that you have some very deep issues that you need to see a psychologist about.   So if you can't have children then others shouldn't be allowed to?   Seriously dude ... get help.

You sound like a rape apologist. Also the way you keep using the word "sin" as well is cringe worthy. I'm not religious.

Rapists are criminals and women have every right to terminate unwanted pregnancies and I would encourage them to do so.

Rapists shouldn't be allowed to enjoy their predatory behaviour turn into a genetic legacy for themselves, it's unfair to men such as myself who would have liked children but were shunned by women.

[ArMaP]

Rapists shouldn't be allowed to enjoy their predatory behaviour turn into a genetic legacy for themselves, it's unfair to men such as myself who would have liked children but were shunned by women.

I think it's more unfair to the woman that got raped, don't you think?

Edited to add that, for the rapist, having "genetic legacy" could mean nothing or could be something they do not even like, so they may not see it as a "prize".

Is it unfair to men that would like to have children and cannot? Maybe, but that's not the main issue, the main issue is a man forcing a woman to have unwanted sex with him, from which a child may result, not what you or I feel about not having children.

[Stealth Blimp]

I think it's more unfair to the woman that got raped, don't you think?

Edited to add that, for the rapist, having "genetic legacy" could mean nothing or could be something they do not even like, so they may not see it as a "prize".

Is it unfair to men that would like to have children and cannot? Maybe, but that's not the main issue, the main issue is a man forcing a woman to have unwanted sex with him, from which a child may result, not what you or I feel about not having children.

I'm not disputing anything you say so what you've written is pointless. Although I would imagine rapists do derive pleasure from knowing they've force bred a woman.

I'm saying in the case of rape, abortion should be mandatory. There are people in this thread who think women shouldn't have the choice to abort under any circumstances. I'm saying they shouldn't have the choice not to abort in this circumstance. 

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Even if they are never allowed to see their offspring there is still a chance that as an adult the child that was the product of rape will reach out to their biological father and develop a bond with them. That is a complete slap on the face to socially awkward men such as myself who were never given the chance by women to become a father. I don't think the lives of male rapists should be allowed to have meaning by knowing they are the father of a child anyway.

I know bioethics is beyond the purview of this forum but I have no other platform on which to express this opinion. I'll always support a woman's right to abort her child if it prevents rapists from passing on their genes and in a slightly perverse sort of way this makes me a feminist.

So what I'm saying is in the event of impregnation by rape - abortion should be mandatory.

Lol...  If Joss Whedon was revoked the title "Male Feminist" and cancelled from the Buffy reboot, and then the industy entitlrely, your even less qualified for that title. 
 
I get you're trying but please don't...  Because you're apparently so detached from reality you just opened up a "Abortion Should Be Allowed For Rape" OP based on YOUR lifetime of rejection and feeling slighted they get to have sex through rape and you don't. WTF dude?

Its like you really just envy anyone that gets to have sex.

Do you also envy the rapist that can somehow draw pleasure from an unrequited encounter featuring a victim literally fighting them tooth and nail?

But before you get too down, you are a actually A MIRACLE WORKER. You have such a way, that in a usually divided forum, you're bringing EVERYONE together to tell you to seek help. 

So... while I'm usually a Leah Remini style critic of them, I suggest you seek the Church of Scientology post haste for an extensive thetan audit.

You need them to hook you up to the polygraph and yell at you until you admit all your damage. It costs a little, but they have super payment plans. They are all over The UK too. 

And once you're in that church, you'll meet other socially awkward people who paid a shitload to turn their minds around. And then you wont make excuses on the internet anymore.

[UltraBudgie]

I'm not religious.

have you tried. maybe not scienceology as ideamotor suggested. you should know she tend to sarcastic but i think perhaps may be she believes in the tin can thing deep down. anyway. maybe voodoo. heap the unfairness, bitterness, resentment into your voodoo child. see if you want that aborted. you have an opportunity here.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

have you tried. maybe not scienceology as ideamotor suggested. you should know she tend to sarcastic but i think perhaps may be she believes in the tin can thing deep down. anyway. maybe voodoo. heap the unfairness, bitterness, resentment into your voodoo child. see if you want that aborted. you have an opportunity here.

Ha.  Me, use the sarcasm? I may have been Skănkhunt42 in another life of internet trolling...




But it's December now... and this is a Christmas Song.... In Denmark, where every story is like a normal story, only tragic and sad.

[Dulles]

I'm not disputing anything you say so what you've written is pointless. Although I would imagine rapists do derive pleasure from knowing they've force bred a woman.

I'm saying in the case of rape, abortion should be mandatory. There are people in this thread who think women shouldn't have the choice to abort under any circumstances. I'm saying they shouldn't have the choice not to abort in this circumstance. 

Forced abortions are pretty uncommon outside of China and North Korea. Is that the kind of world you'd want to live in?

Coupled with your other thread about how women don't like you makes this thread all the more disturbing.

This doesn't come from a place of judgement, but from a place of concern: please consider seeing a therapist.

[Bootless]

...I don't think the lives of male rapists should be allowed to have meaning by knowing they are the father of a child anyway.

... I'll always support a woman's right to abort her child if it prevents rapists from passing on their genes ...

So what I'm saying is in the event of impregnation by rape - abortion should be mandatory.

Just kill the rapist and he won't find any more meaning in life.

Maybe rape should be a capital offence with no statute of limitation.

Wouldn't it be weird if the world were rid of rapists and society collapsed as a result? What if rape is the driving force of civilization?

So if a woman is pregnant from rape, she might want to keep the child. The child may have the genes needed to be the next great World Leader. Mothers of World leaders might not have too bad of a life.

[ note: by World Leader I mean Billionaires, CEOs of successful corporations, and the politicians they can buy or bribe and kleptocratic dictators probably ]

[BeyondKnowledge]

I'm just saying I support a woman's right to abort if the pregnancy is a product of rape. Rapists should not be allowed to become fathers of their own genetic offspring.

No, that is not what you are saying. You are saying the victim has no choice in the abortion and it must be done. 

Why would you support rape by removing any financial responsibility for the children? No children, no responsibility.

Why do you support not allowing any woman the choice of having that child or not? 

Why do you try to force your personal beliefs on others? 

You seem to have been hurt and are lashing out. Please seek help.