Quote:Gazan 'Civilians' Involved in Every Stage of Hamas Hostage Scheme, Freed Israelis Say.

In primetime Hebrew TV interviews, the released hostages have confirmed that ordinary Gazans were deeply complicit in every stage of the hostage scheme. Unarmed teens helped to abduct Jews from their homes on Oct. 7, while Gazan women and children held some of the Israelis captive. In other cases, Gazan doctors collaborated with Hamas terrorists to covertly treat kidnapped Israelis and imprison them in hospitals. When the Israelis encountered Gazans on the streets, the results were often terrifying.

"The main issue is that the organization is very much melted into the social structure of Gaza," Michael Milshtein, a former senior Israeli military intelligence officer and a leading expert on Hamas, told the Washington Free Beacon. "There is no way you can really know who is Hamas. Someone might have a grocery store where he sells tomatoes and water, but he might also have storehouse of weapons and give religious lessons there.  And his wife and kids might be keeping an Israeli hostage at home.  "Hamas is not only a political matter in Gaza. It's a way of life," 

"I experienced hell. Everyone there are terrorists," Schem said in a separate interview on Israel's Channel 13. "There are no innocent civilians, not one."

(01-21-2024, 06:28 AM)Kenzo Wrote: There was still some " change" of two state solution earlyer , but that train allready departure with the hamas terror event.

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(01-22-2024, 02:17 AM)xpert11 Wrote: One possibility is integrating Gaza into Israel. Palestinians who aren't known terrorists swear an oath to Israel and have the right to live and work in that country. Also, those Palestinian children would attend schools where they are taught the merits of co-existing with their neighbours.

The only remote chance for the two-state solution is if a splinter group in the West Bank breaks away from the Palestinian Authority, like Bangladesh, which is an offshoot of East Pakistan.

(01-22-2024, 07:17 AM)xpert11 Wrote: Kenzo, the biggest issue with the integration approach is what happens to the Palestinians who refuse to change their stripes. Israel pursuing ethnic cleansing against those Palestinians isn't morally an acceptable option under any circumstances. But beyond that matter, Gaza's neighbours, Egypt and Jordan, won't give the Palestinians impacted by the ongoing fighting the time of day.

So, Hamas supporters who remain loyal to the cause might find themselves stateless while remaining in Gaza. They might turn to other terrorist organisations to earn money if they are unemployed. Although out of their sheer hatred for Jews, they would likely see them join the next Hamas.

(01-22-2024, 02:17 AM)xpert11 Wrote: One possibility is integrating Gaza into Israel. Palestinians who aren't known terrorists ...

Quote:Thousands attended demonstrations in Tel Aviv, Haifa, Jerusalem, and outside Netanyahu's private residence in Caesarea. Bereaved sister: 'The values on which this country was built were replaced by political survival, bickering, and incitement'

Quote:At Tel Aviv, Noam Alon, the sister of Capt. Dor Sade who was killed on October 7, said, "Our grandfather, Yitzhak, was a combat medic in the armored corps, and was killed in the Yom Kippur War. Exactly 50 years have passed, and again a surprise ... again 'we didn't know,' again, 'we were not told'. The values that led Dor and my grandfather, the values on which this country was built, were abandoned. These were replaced by political survival, bickering, and incitement. But this is not our fate, we have the power to change and fix it. This government needs to go home now."