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Wow! Now it's Illegal to be a Victim!! - FlyingClayDisk - 09-13-2024
Get this!!!.... Now you can be attacked and STILL go to JAIL!
A pro-Israeli group of protesters is protesting in MA along a city street. Some random dude on the other side of the street starts talking smack. Then...he runs across the street and tackles one of the protesters and starts beating on him. The victim then draws a pistol and shoots the attacker. The fight ends.
The victim is then arrested and charged with violating the attacker's Constitutional rights causing injury and assault and battery with a deadly weapon...FOR DEFENDING HIMSELF....EXERCISING HIS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!
YOU LITERALLY CANNOT MAKE THIS SH!T UP, FOLKS!!!
Pro-Israel demonstrator charged after shooting attacker
Edit - If this had been the other way around, there'd be a F'ing PARADE going on right now...following the SUMMARY EXECUTION of the pro-Israel attacker by the police.
RE: Wow! Now it's Illegal to be a Victim!! - Maxmars - 09-13-2024
I am not too surprised about the arrest...
Any time a weapon is used in violence I would assume that will happen.
But the CHARGE is an outrage.
All witnesses would indicate this is a case of self-defense... but the prosecutors are "using" this to elevate their political relevance - the way they often do now.
RE: Wow! Now it's Illegal to be a Victim!! - ArMaP - 09-13-2024
I think there's one thing called excessive self defence.
RE: Wow! Now it's Illegal to be a Victim!! - KKLoco - 09-13-2024
(09-13-2024, 04:33 PM)ArMaP Wrote: I think there's one thing called excessive self defence.
Did you watch the video? The dude was choking him.
Kill, or be killed. He deserved the bullet.
RE: Wow! Now it's Illegal to be a Victim!! - Lynyrd Skynyrd - 09-13-2024
The police and DA may charge you with a crime, only for the charges to be dismissed by a judge. Mr. Hayes needs a good lawyer, and can probably prove he acted in self defense.
RE: Wow! Now it's Illegal to be a Victim!! - Maxmars - 09-13-2024
(09-13-2024, 05:59 PM)Lynyrd Skynyrd Wrote: The police and DA may charge you with a crime, only for the charges to be dismissed by a judge. Mr. Hayes needs a good lawyer, and can probably prove he acted in self defense.
Not to be argumentative (at least not intentionally) but it kind of boils down to a "principle of the thing" idea...
They could have charged him with "discharging a weapon within the city limits" to the same effect. They needn't now "brand" his "Criminal" record with a charge that can be reported as violent assault.
It's abusive prosecutorial conduct... and where there are prosecutors, there are politics.
This is now fully in the realm of political activism. Courtesy of our government/media combine.
RE: Wow! Now it's Illegal to be a Victim!! - ArMaP - 09-13-2024
(09-13-2024, 04:50 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Did you watch the video? The dude was choking him.
It was three against one, it was hardly kill or be killed.
RE: Wow! Now it's Illegal to be a Victim!! - l0st - 09-13-2024
This has been standard procedure in Blue states for decades now.
I once had an intruder force my door open and enter my house. I hit the intruder over the head with a chair before forcing him from my home.
When the police barged in, I was arrested for hitting "John Doe" over the head with a chair, despite the clear evidence of the door having been forced. Spent the night in jail. Released next AM, was denied phone call, and had to walk a few miles to a gas station so I could call a taxi.
I hired a lawyer to the tune of $10,000. The DA dropped the case. I was still on the hook for $10,000.
Probably should have taken the PD to court. The officers that arrived - 5 of them - forced their way into my residence without a search or arrest warrant claiming "exigent circumstances" but the intruder was long gone, and they knew this. I also had injuries from the incident, but no medical care was provided. There was no information that the intruder was still in the residence or anything of the sort. No calls from the other party. Police took it upon themselves to react this way.
That was basically the last time I trusted the Police.
(09-13-2024, 04:50 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Did you watch the video? The dude was choking him.
Kill, or be killed. He deserved the bullet.
I had a kid in middle school choke me from behind while eating my lunch. I gave that fucker 26 stitches to the forehead.
No charges filed. Never got suspended or kicked from school. This was back when we had a functional government run by people who aren't completely insane.
(09-13-2024, 07:01 PM)ArMaP Wrote: It was three against one, it was hardly kill or be killed.
Easy for you to say when you're not on the receiving end of it.
I think 3 against one should be automatic attempted murder charges and all battery charges automatically upgraded to "aggravated" status.
RE: Wow! Now it's Illegal to be a Victim!! - KKLoco - 09-13-2024
(09-13-2024, 07:01 PM)ArMaP Wrote: It was three against one, it was hardly kill or be killed.
I’m confused, Armap. The perpetrator, came BARRELING across the street in RAGE. He was also physically fit. Looked like he was on a jog. The dude he attacked was obese. The people that defended the obese guy (being choked) were also frail beings. However, they had the balls to come to the obese dudes aid.
Repetition for emphasis: who instigated this conflict? And who instigated the death card (choking)?
RE: Wow! Now it's Illegal to be a Victim!! - FlyingClayDisk - 09-13-2024
(09-13-2024, 04:33 PM)ArMaP Wrote: I think there's one thing called excessive self defence.
Yeah, like if he shot the attacker (17) more times (after he was dead), then threw him in the back of his pickup, drove 23 miles, and then ran him through a woodchipper...twice...after lighting him on fire! THEN I might agree.
Otherwise, I categorically disagree!!
