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RE: Linux gaming - pianopraze - 08-06-2024
So I gave up on 11, tried to use 10.
10 is crap. Much worse than 11. It just barely works turning off updates. Win 11 is rock solid with updates off - until it updates and bricks my machine.
Tried to play Dragon age origins on Win 10. It just crashes to desktop as soon as I get past intro area. Won’t go forward period. Tried going to older saves and working forward. Nope. Crash to desktop every time.
Deleted Win 10.
Trying Nobara again. Just installed. It updated and asked me to reboot. I did. Now giving error no internet connection… it has a hard wire Ethernet connection. Will reboot again and see if that fixes it. I’ve noticed some Linux installs need to be rebooted a few times to start working well.
reboot fixed. Installing Nvidia drivers now. Requires reboot. Rebooting.
steam is on desktop already. Installed. I see install game fix ups and install proton ge in optional steps. Will install. Done. Installed 9-9 9-10 9-11. Don’t know what all the other things are so didn’t install.
Hmm dragon age origins says windows only. Grrrrrr…
OK there is force compatibility. Don’t see the protons I installed listed.. going to restart pc and see if they show up. Ok they show up now choosing proton ge 9-11.
Installing. Will run and see if I get further than win 10. Will update.
update. Installed click play… nothing happens. Reboot. Still nothing. Time to search net…
… no browser installed. No links to instal… where is installer? Found it. "Discover" is briefcase on bottom left of task bar. Instal brave. Wants wallet? Use default. Whew… ok now to find way to get dragon age to work. Search Linux dragon age origin…
first solution listed: goto steam,- settings -compatibility -enable steam play for all other titles.
done. I go back and disable the specific protocol ge - 911 under manage game.
restart, open steam, open dao… get launcher, click play… nothing.
sigh. Back to…. Braving? What do you call searching on brave. Not googling.. anyways. Winehq lists as platinum.. but it’s the gog version not the steam version. Harumph.
add steam to search. Brave ai gives frazzled instructions mentioning gog and steam interchangeably so that instructions make no sense… does suggest using different proton and or system settings. Will lower settings and use older proton and see if that works.
hour or so in. Very frustrated. Launcher saying wrong version of direct x. Don’t know how to fix this. Using proton 7 8 and 9 which does have correct version doesn’t work.
googling and trying on…
RE: Linux gaming - pianopraze - 08-06-2024
I give up on Steam. I found I did have Dragon Age Origins on GOG. Will try there.
Open Lutris (already installed on nobara), search DAO, follow download instructions (only slightly confusing) it opens brave and goes to GOG - had to log into GOG, close brave, and click download again in Lutris and it is now downloading/installing DAO. Looks like it will also do and instal patches as well as game. Moderately hopeful it will work…
… seriously craving crayons already. Sigh. ?
will add more once downloaded…
RE: Linux gaming - Maxmars - 08-06-2024
Your dogged devotion to resolving the problem is praiseworthy.
You must be a hell of a problem solver in your surrounds.
Keep us posted.... I'm kvetching vicariously through you, by the way...
RE: Linux gaming - pianopraze - 08-06-2024
(08-06-2024, 03:48 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Your dogged devotion to resolving the problem is praiseworthy.
You must be a hell of a problem solver in your surrounds.
Keep us posted.... I'm kvetching vicariously through you, by the way...
Thank you.
i just bang my head until something gives. My sanity usually.
sooo… it installed, and errored out at the end. But the game launcher started. I set the video settings and then clicked something wrong obviously as it closed to desktop. Probably my error. So I look for shortcut on the desktop that I clicked to add during instal… it’s not there.
ut oh. So I click Lutris and it’s not showing the game installed.
i goto Dolphin (file manager), look at the install location and it’s installed.. it did launch the game so I know it’s working but Lutris does not see the game… wtf?
try to launch game from instal location… no beans. Guess I have to launch it from Lutris.
I mess around in Lutris until I find the option to instal previously installed game. That doesn’t work. I try all the other options. Nothing.
i know this has to be correct option but it’s not finding game. I see the game… it doesn’t.
bang my head against the wall, restart, bang more, a few hours trying all the same things, more head banging than I’ve done since the 80’s, and restarting - it finally sees the game. No idea why it wouldn’t for two hours. Didn't change anything.
like I said. Sometimes Linux needs a few restarts to get working right. It seems to fix its install over time somehow. Or maybe I’m just crazy.
i know that’s true, but anyways it’s showing in Lutris so I launch game on absolute minimum quality. It starts. I play 5 minutes, gradually upping settings to 1080p and all other settings max settings. Everything’s working fine.
play through opening scene get to second scene where it was crashing fatally in windows. Save game. Walk expecting crash… nothing. Games playing fine.
whew.
sooooo… a real pain in the butt. But it’s working.
options:
1. Stay on Linux which is a pain in the butt but working.
2. Switch to win 11 make sure to finish game within 1 month as it will stop working or crash all the time once win 11 updates.
3. Use win 10 which is crashing and game won’t play.
guess I’ll stay on Linux for now. At least until I play through dragon age origins. Will update once I get to dragon age 2.
Nobara Linux is smother than win 10 as an OS. Prettier also. Feels more stable/modern. Everything is different but it’s there. Example my number 2/@ key on my gaming keyboard is broken (really I didn’t throw it…cough. What?). To type these I have to use window keyboard. It’s called something else in Nobara, but it was there and easy to find. Windows 10 feels clunky in comparison. It’s not as smooth and easy as Mac… but it’s free and I can use my 2080ti graphics card and play windows games.
still feels like it’s just 80-90% there vs windows for gaming, but it’s better every time I use Linux. For daily driving it’s better than windows. I didn’t have to touch Microsoft edge browser to download brave. I absolutely hate that in windows. Just straight instal of brave browser from "Discover" which is the app installer - so you don’t have to look up the right words to sudo app get or whatever, I forget the term. I’m sure power users can do that if they want…
RE: Linux gaming - 85303 - 08-07-2024
Ya know I'm not all that Linux savvy and I'm not too knowledgable in any kind of computer programming or anything but what I do know is gaming and this post has a severe lack of gamer input...
Are you just dead set on a Linux machine for gaming or do you just want something less intrusive than windows? Idk I can't really grasp the idea your going for here. It seems like gaming is better in any other method than what your trying. Maybe you like the new territory exploring possibilities like I do.
Anyways, if your seriously trying to do some new kind of Linux gaming, I can't help, power to you. Your smarter at that than I...
Curious though, I'm trying any old PC game I can get my hands on in my Samsung phone. I'm using winlator and having some very weird and very exciting results. Last month I was reliving fallout 3 and new Vegas at 35 fps with mods, accidentally closed the app while duplicating instances created an unrecoverable crash, whoops... Now I'm playing parkitect, streets of rogue and Galactic civilizations 3 right on my phone. Slow but no crashing as of now
RE: Linux gaming - Maxmars - 08-07-2024
I am always impressed that people who value the experience of gaming will undertake extraordinary research and experimentation to port the games to other platforms.
Gaming on a phone is one of those areas that presumably requires extensive familiarity with processes and operating systems.
Not every developer pursues the activity, since most times games are developed corporately, for the sake of business, and they don't expect a revenue stream to "port" along with the game.
So gaming aficionados and hobbyists take the challenge on themselves, often facing legal pressures to conform to "pay us or don't play."
Linux is the little guy on the operating system block for now. (That doesn't make it worse or better, just not the same.) Many games are slowly migrating to Linux - whose major benefit is that it's not "owned" by a giant tech company trying to squeeze as much revenue out of it for as long as possible.
But never underestimate the power of the users... some of whom are more versatile and inventive than the studios that brought us "micro-transactions" and "subscription play."
RE: Linux gaming - pianopraze - 08-07-2024
(08-07-2024, 12:25 AM)85303 Wrote: Ya know I'm not all that Linux savvy and I'm not too knowledgable in any kind of computer programming or anything but what I do know is gaming and this post has a severe lack of gamer input...
Are you just dead set on a Linux machine for gaming or do you just want something less intrusive than windows? Idk I can't really grasp the idea your going for here. It seems like gaming is better in any other method than what your trying. Maybe you like the new territory exploring possibilities like I do.
Anyways, if your seriously trying to do some new kind of Linux gaming, I can't help, power to you. Your smarter at that than I...
Curious though, I'm trying any old PC game I can get my hands on in my Samsung phone. I'm using winlator and having some very weird and very exciting results. Last month I was reliving fallout 3 and new Vegas at 35 fps with mods, accidentally closed the app while duplicating instances created an unrecoverable crash, whoops... Now I'm playing parkitect, streets of rogue and Galactic civilizations 3 right on my phone. Slow but no crashing as of now
I was happy on Win11 until Microsoft did an update that basically bricks my machine. I have to then do clean install and can only use Win11 one month until Microsoft overrides my "do not update setting" and updates and re-bricks my machine.
I’m documenting my real world experience trying to use Linux for gaming the real games I love.
So many of the Linux Gaming videos and articles are written by Linux experts and they brag about how good it is. I’m documenting what happens when an average user tries. Honestly documenting the good, bad and ugly.
I’m not cherry picking games to make Linux look good or bad, just documenting getting the games I actually play running on Linux.
sorry I don’t know anything about phones and my programming experience is BASIC on TRs 80’S and commodore Vic 20s.
RE: Linux gaming - 85303 - 08-07-2024
(08-07-2024, 07:31 AM)pianopraze Wrote: I was happy on Win11 until Microsoft did an update that basically bricks my machine. I have to then do clean install and can only use Win11 one month until Microsoft overrides my "do not update setting" and updates and re-bricks my machine.
I’m documenting my real world experience trying to use Linux for gaming the real games I love.
So many of the Linux Gaming videos and articles are written by Linux experts and they brag about how good it is. I’m documenting what happens when an average user tries. Honestly documenting the good, bad and ugly.
I’m not cherry picking games to make Linux look good or bad, just documenting getting the games I actually play running on Linux.
sorry I don’t know anything about phones and my programming experience is BASIC on TRs 80’S and commodore Vic 20s.
Well thank you, my PC was right on the cusp, I was just slightly under the mark for win11.
I knew I dodged a killshot from MS, and you've validated that nicely
I hope this thread gets archived and kept forever because I'll be doing exactly this eventually.
So.... Thanks a bunch.
RE: Linux gaming - pianopraze - 08-08-2024
(08-07-2024, 10:53 AM)85303 Wrote: Well thank you, my PC was right on the cusp, I was just slightly under the mark for win11.
I knew I dodged a killshot from MS, and you've validated that nicely
I hope this thread gets archived and kept forever because I'll be doing exactly this eventually.
So.... Thanks a bunch.
Hope it helps people. This is real unvarnished look.
I’m loving Nobara. I’m getting used to it. Haven’t had to use command line once. It comes with a lot of useful software. It’s just ready to go. Autodetected all my hardware and installed good drivers. And much more stable and beautiful than Windows to.
Bluetooth works flawlessly. Windows 10 won’t work at all, and 11 only until it updates. Thought that was hardware problem but turns out it is Windows problem.
DOA is stable. Only one brief crash. Much more stable than Windows.
Loving Nobara Linux.
RE: Linux gaming - Maxmars - 08-12-2024
I ran across this short video, and for some reason (
) I thought of this thread. Apologies if you disagree.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A3Sog281tZw
