(08-27-2024, 09:18 AM)Encia22 Wrote: Also in the article, it mentions that the anchor was down, which in the case of inclement weather, the captain should have raised, along with, lowering the keel (yet to be confirmed), sealing all windows and hatches and assembling the passengers… all precautions that appear to have been disregarded. So, even if he ignored Italy’s Marine weather reports and considering he had been warned about bad weather, specifically by email, it would seem that the sinking was caused by negligence… but that’s for the courts to decide.

Quote:Prosecutors are preparing to place under investigation more crew members of the superyacht, including two Britons.
They are looking to broaden their inquiries and to place under investigation Tijs Koopmans, 33, the Dutch first officer, and two British crew members, named as Tim Parker-Eaton and Matthew Griffith, according to Italian press reports.

Mr Parker-Eaton, from Clophill, Bedfordshire, was the ship’s engineer, while Mr Griffith is reported to have been keeping watch on deck.

Quote:Data from the superyacht show that it was hit by a violent storm at 3.50am last Monday and sank 16 minutes later, at 4.06am. But it was not until 4.34am that the crew fired a red flare from their life raft to raise the alarm.

(08-28-2024, 05:11 AM)Encia22 Wrote: @l0st and @guyfriday

I read this morning that the investigation is being broadened to include more members of the crew.

Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/27/bayesian-superyacht-british-crew-investigation-manslaughter/

I love a conspiracy theory as much as the next person and my mind raced at looking at different angles, just like both of you propose.

However, no matter which hypothesis I choose or what rabbit holes I go into, I’m always stuck on the sudden storm that struck the yacht. From the same article, data apparently confirms the storm hit the ship…

So, how can something like this have been planned. Yes, we could simply say that foul play was in the pipeline and that it was just a matter of waiting for the right time and place. Their trip had many programmed stops around Italy, but violent storms are rare in summer, even if they have increased in numbers due to the excessive heat Europe is experiencing.

I just have a hard time putting the pieces together that point to a planned operation. Too many people are involved, with anyone of those complicit eventually squealing under interrogation. As I mentioned in another post, if I were to plan something like this, it would be done in open international waters, far away from any possible intervention and investigation. The Bayesian will reveal all once she is brought up, which, by the way, is the responsibility of the owner… Lynch’s wife has to pay for the salvage.

And here we open another can of worms… why was Angela Bacares the owner? Apparently bought through one of her companies… Was she just lucky to survive or is there more?

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(08-28-2024, 11:04 PM)l0st Wrote: I don't believe in coincidences. Why weren't the crew part of the investigation from day 1? And, why are they suddenly a part of it now?

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(09-03-2024, 12:18 AM)Maxmars Wrote: I wouldn't normally share this because I can't actually access the story (Fox websites insists that I 'register' with them to see the story - I will not give them my name to sell.)

But just in case some of you already have... this headline caught my eye...

From Fox: Deadly superyacht sinking off coast of Sicily investigated as possible manslaughter

Apparently someone thinks there's more to the sad tragedy...

Quote: New York City lawyer Chris Morvillo and his wife Neda — two victims of the Bayesian tragedy — drowned when the super yacht sank off the coast of Sicily last month, according to autopsies.

Quote:The first autopsies in the tragedy were conducted on the bodies of the Morvillos.

Quote: Autopsies on the bodies of Morgan Stanley Bank International chair Jonathan Bloomer and his wife Judy are planned for Wednesday, the Associated Press reported. 

Quote: A judicial investigation is also probing three Bayesian crew members for suspected negligent manslaughter and causing the shipwreck.
 The ship’s captain, James Cutfield, has not spoken about the wreck and refused to talk when questioned by prosecutors. 
 
Other members of the crew have maintained that they did what they could to save those on board.

Quote:The exact cause of the wreck has yet to be determined. Some have suspected that a rare weather phenomena occurring at the time, a “black swan” weather event, may have contributed to the accident. Naval experts, however, have suggested that the 185-foot yacht could have withstood a storm. 
 
The Bayesian has yet to be salvaged.

(09-03-2024, 12:18 AM)Maxmars Wrote: I wouldn't normally share this because I can't actually access the story (Fox websites insists that I 'register' with them to see the story - I will not give them my name to sell.

Quote:Investigators in the superyacht sinking off the coast of Sicily that left seven people dead earlier this week are considering manslaughter charges in the case, judicial sources told Reuters.

The public prosecutor's office of Termini Imerese in Sicily is investigating possible negligence on the part of the crew of the yacht when it was besieged by storms while anchored. 

Divers on Friday recovered what is believed to be the body of Hannah Lynch, the final person who had been unaccounted for in the tragedy, the Italian Coast Guard said. 

She was the daughter of Mike Lynch, a British tech magnate who was celebrating his acquittal on fraud charges with friends and family on the boat. His body was found Thursday. 

The Lynch family was aboard the Bayesian, a 184-foot British-flagged yacht that sank after capsizing in the early hours of Monday amid winds as high as 100 mph. 

Bayesian had 22 people on board — 12 passengers and 10 crew — when it capsized and sank within minutes of being hit by a predawn storm. 

Fifteen people survived the sinking, including Lynch’s wife, Angela Bacares. 

The captain of the yacht and the other survivors have been interviewed by the Italian Coast Guard at the request of the prosecutor's office. 

The prosecutor leading the case is scheduled to hold a press conference Saturday. No one is formally under investigation yet. 

Possible charges could include negligent shipwreck and multiple homicide, sources told Reuters. 

"The Lynch family is devastated, in shock and is being comforted and supported by family and friends," a spokesperson said in a statement for the family. "Their thoughts are with everyone affected by the tragedy. They would like to sincerely thank the Italian coastguard, emergency services and all those who helped in the rescue." 

Investigators are trying to figure out why the yacht sank so quickly. 

Giovanni Costantino, CEO of The Italian Sea Group, which built Lynch’s yacht, blamed the shipwreck on a string of "indescribable, unreasonable errors" made by the crew and ruled out any design or construction failings.

"The impossible happened on that boat ... but it went down because it took on water. From where, the investigators will tell," Costantino said in an interview.

Christopher Morvillo, an American lawyer with Clifford Chance who defended Lynch in the fraud case, also died, as did Morgan Stanley International Chairman Jonathan Bloomer, who testified in Lynch’s defense.

Morvillo’s wife, Neda, and Bloomer’s wife, Judy, were also among the dead. The body of onboard chef Recaldo Thomas, an Antiguan citizen, was recovered Monday.

A nearby sailboat rescued 15 people, including a 1-year-old girl. 

Divers had been searching for the missing in the hull of the Bayesian, which now rests on the seabed 164 feet underwater.

Civil protection officials said they believe the ship was struck by a tornado over the water, known as a waterspout, sometime around 5 a.m. Monday near the port of Porticello, where it was anchored and then sank quickly. 

(09-03-2024, 01:15 AM)guyfriday Wrote: I wonder if they will salvage the ship so that we will know what happened?

Quote: A New York City lawyer and his wife, who were among the seven who died in the sinking of the Bayesian superyacht last month off the coast of Sicily, passed away as a result of drowning, autopsies have revealed.
 
The causes of death for Chris Morvillo and his wife Neda were confirmed by coroners in Italy, as autopsies are planned Wednesday on the bodies of Jonathan Bloomer, chairman of Morgan Stanley’s London-based investment banking subsidiary, and his wife, Judy, according to The Associated Press.
 
The Bayesian had 22 people on board – 12 passengers and 10 crew – when it capsized and sank within minutes of being hit by a predawn storm on Aug. 19. Civil protection officials said they believe the ship was struck by a tornado over the water, known as a waterspout, near the port of Porticello, where the yacht was anchored.
Autopsies are pending for British tech entrepreneur Mike Lynch – who had organized the yacht trip to celebrate a recent legal victory – as well as his 18-year-old daughter Hannah and the yacht’s cook, Recaldo Thomas.

Quote:Prosecutors also reportedly are investigating the captain and two crew members for possible responsibility in connection with the sinking. Fifteen people, including Lynch's wife, were rescued from the 184-foot British-flagged luxury yacht.
 
The CEO of a manufacturing company responsible for building the yacht has blamed a series of "indescribable, unreasonable errors" by the crew for the vessel’s demise.
 
Giovanni Costantino told Reuters that the yacht’s crew made an "incredible mistake" of not being ready for the storm, which was included in shipping forecasts. The passengers should have been called out of their cabins and ordered to assemble at a safety point as the ship was preparing for the storm by taking measures such as pulling up the anchor, the CEO said.