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RE: Dr Kavanagh and the Chinese communists! - guyfriday - 02-18-2024 (02-18-2024, 06:49 PM)PhyloCFly Wrote: Yes, I get the name communist and that this is what it is called.To me, the key here is ''called''. It may have been communist when Mao marched and for some time later but now it seems to me to just be one big capitalist corporation. Thats not what happened. The Chinese women didn't have much if any issues (other than the known spy that was seen in the background). The CCP handler was the one making the issue. If he had directed his group to just move along, then there wouldn't have been any issue at all. Instead, what that handler did was try and assert CCP rules and standards to someone that is not CCP, nor in China. So, this narrative of "enraged and hateful Asian women" isn't part of this video. It's interesting how you see this video, I would like to ask how would you have dealt with the issue being presented here? RE: Dr Kavanagh and the Chinese communists! - Blaine91555 - 02-19-2024 (02-18-2024, 06:49 PM)PhyloCFly Wrote: Yes, I get the name communist and that this is what it is called.To me, the key here is ''called''. It may have been communist when Mao marched and for some time later but now it seems to me to just be one big capitalist corporation. They may have accepted capitalism as a pathway to power, but the core government is still a whole lot like when Mao was in charge. When the state owns and runs the businesses, it is still Communist. The hidden China and one for tourists and outsiders are separate things, it seems to me. I agree that the images people use to draw attention to their videos are just as bad as the headlines used in the news. It's tacky, but they use it because it works. (02-18-2024, 07:27 PM)guyfriday Wrote: The CCP handler was the one making the issue. Now that's the story. CCP enforcers in other countries. RE: Dr Kavanagh and the Chinese communists! - PhyloCFly - 02-19-2024 (02-18-2024, 07:27 PM)guyfriday Wrote: Thats not what happened. The Chinese women didn't have much if any issues (other than the known spy that was seen in the background). The CCP handler was the one making the issue. If he had directed his group to just move along, then there wouldn't have been any issue at all. Instead, what that handler did was try and assert CCP rules and standards to someone that is not CCP, nor in China. So, this narrative of "enraged and hateful Asian women" isn't part of this video. RE: Dr Kavanagh and the Chinese communists! - guyfriday - 02-20-2024 (02-19-2024, 11:54 PM)PhyloCFly Wrote: So, you don't feel that the CCP handler was in the wrong for not walking away with the understanding that he, and the people he was with, are in another country with different laws and custom? As to the use of video. In some places and countries, it's a good thing to do. It provides a layer of protection from political abuse as well as providing video evidence of right or wrong-doing in incidents like this. A lot of people don't understand this, but it's one of the reasons why drivers in Russia and other countries, use dash cameras while driving. RE: Dr Kavanagh and the Chinese communists! - PhyloCFly - 02-20-2024 Sure I do, he, by our standards and laws was out of line. However he was the aggressor, not just aggressor but also acting very unhinged. Our musician though seemed of cooler mind and should have seen this and known that there is really noting to win in a squabble with an unhinged person. He could just have walked away and come back another time when that group was gone. Simple. Yet he chose to make a point by arguing with him. The guy was shaking and if it was not clear to him by the time he had innocently touched the woman and then the guy began his ''don't touch her'' line over and over and over it should have been clear that that cat was out of his mind, for whatever reason. Time to walk away and let the dust settle. Come back tomorrow. RE: Dr Kavanagh and the Chinese communists! - Blaine91555 - 02-21-2024 (02-20-2024, 10:56 PM)PhyloCFly Wrote: Sure I do, he, by our standards and laws was out of line. However he was the aggressor, not just aggressor but also acting very unhinged. Our musician though seemed of cooler mind and should have seen this and known that there is really noting to win in a squabble with an unhinged person. He could just have walked away and come back another time when that group was gone. Simple. Yet he chose to make a point by arguing with him. The guy was shaking and if it was not clear to him by the time he had innocently touched the woman and then the guy began his ''don't touch her'' line over and over and over it should have been clear that that cat was out of his mind, for whatever reason. Time to walk away and let the dust settle. Come back tomorrow. Walking away may have been better, but then not standing up to a bully is not wise, is it? To me, the real story here is how most of the Chinese live their lives looking over their shoulder and in constant fear of saying or doing the wrong thing. RE: Dr Kavanagh and the Chinese communists! - PhyloCFly - 02-21-2024 (02-21-2024, 03:06 PM)Blaine91555 Wrote: Walking away may have been better, but then not standing up to a bully is not wise, is it? RE: Dr Kavanagh and the Chinese communists! - Kurokage - 02-22-2024 In my opinion, the Chinese 'enforcer' had lost the fight the moment he raised his voice and shouted at Dr Kavanagh for effect. The Chinese vistors needed to show a little respect as the guy was already playing the piano and was being recorded before they showed up. They showed the CCP for what it truely is, a controlling bully. RE: Dr Kavanagh and the Chinese communists! - Blaine91555 - 02-22-2024 (02-21-2024, 07:17 PM)PhyloCFly Wrote:One could hope that at some point the Chinese people, who suffer at the hands of the Party, will realize that no nation's leaders can stand up to a united populace. |