Well reading those witness statements does not raise my whelm. Are we at the point where the only thing left to do is disclose 1) proof of non-human technology, and 2) proof of our possession of such? Not much room remaining for wiggling away from the issue. The gang of eight suck at keeping secrets.

You lost me at Elizondo

Starting to see a recurring list of "usual suspects".   I'm sure Ms Kean will be hiding behind the curtain somewhere and they'll rehash the entire Tic-Tac/Gimball video event series.

Man, I hope I'm wrong but I'm slowly turning into a skeptic.  Skeptical about them actually coming forward with any NEW and credible evidence.   This to me iis simply some siugar-coating on requests/justifications for additional funding for a Government snipe hunt, wrapped up and presented to the public as if they're actually doing something.  You know....disinfo campaign
Sorry if I come across angsty.  I haven't had my coffee yet

One involved orbs surrounding and forcing an F-22 out of its patrol area. “The F-22
broke trajectory and atempted to evade but was intercepted and boxed in by approximately
3-6 UAPs,” according to the report.
“One UAP maneuvered in proximity (>12 meters) to the area directly starboard of the
cockpit; there the UAP established a rigid spatal relatonship with the F-22, maintaining its
exact positon and orientaton parallel with the F-22’s cockpit despite multple evasive rolls
and maneuvers. Surrounded by the presumed hostle UAPs, the F-22 was forced out of the
mission area under the escort of the UAP formaton.”

I have heard this one before, wasn't there a hoax on something like this? 

Also what happened after, is the pilot okay? It just abruptly ends. "Oh whelp whoops, there goes one of our F22's again" blows the mind

(11-06-2024, 04:47 PM)Raptured Wrote: Something is going on.  Not sure what yet though.

On Saturday or Sunday I fired up Neflix after a 2-week hiatus (was binging Halloween Baking Challenge cookoff on MAX.  Shoot me) and noticed not ONE but TWO front-page UFO-related shows.   My first thought was "WFT!?" but then that turned to "okay.  what's going on?"
The first was the Manhattan Abduction case with good old Bud "Bestseller" Hopkins.  The other is an upcoming doc about aliens or some shit  I forget.

I then head over to Prime to see what new content they've added in the past week or 2 and see a bunch of UFO docs pop up.  One is Darcy Weir's USO which is a waste of time if you ask me.  Just a bunch of "I know a guy who heard from a guy about this thing he saw once..." trope.  There was maybe one or two interesting photos shown but nothing we haven't already heard.  They're still beating that "Fastmover/USN training exercise gun camera footage tic-tac video" horse and that poor thing should be out of breath by now.

I sub to Dolan and Schratt on YT and noticed their activity has picked up exponentially.   I get it..they want to stay in the spotlight and relevant.  Never let an opportunity drift by and all that but...The Timing.

We're on the cusp of something.  Call it a gut feeling.   The markers are there and the conditioning apparatus has ramped up considerably.  
I don't think full-blown disclosure is about to occur but something is

Yes .. the only thing that will be released is some "Grift" or other by someone telling a us that "That they know something", it will be nothing new
i am sure. 
But to find out there will be a book to buy.

I have given up with Ufology,

(11-12-2024, 06:48 PM)Rigel4 Wrote: Yes .. the only thing that will be released is some "Grift" or other by someone telling a us that "That they know something", it will be nothing new
i am sure. 
But to find out there will be a book to buy.

I have given up with Ufology,

At the risk of coming off preachy..., 

You might want to consider 'reinventing' Ufology instead.

What has become of the topic suffers largely from the "use" of Ufology.  It has been monetized, exploited, misdirected, and rendered "all things popular."

But the subject matter still demands scrutiny.

Forgive me if I misunderstood by overstating what you meant by "giving up."

There is a lot of scammers.

There is real phenomenon going on, be it our craft, natural phenomenon or other I have no clue.

The grift of UFOlogy gets very, very, old. Can understand frustrations.

I am excited. 

I wonder what they will tell this time....

I hope it isn't just another distraction - I want to hear the truth.

(11-13-2024, 07:19 AM)LightAngel Wrote:  

Here is the link I found that seems to have the most people in it (about 1000 right now). Hearing start at 11:30am EST.



Space.com has warmed up telling us who we should find credible or not:

Quote:"The cover-up and disinformation campaign has been so successful that most scientists do not even know UAP are real," Elizondo wrote in his 2024 book "Imminent." The book also claims that four "deceased nonhuman bodies" were recovered from the infamous 1947 crash in Roswell, New Mexico and that "China and Russia do not have the same stigma and can employ their scientists to work on this topic for them."

Elizondo has also claimed firsthand knowledge of U.S. programs that employ individuals with psychic powers to "remote view" distant locations. Most recently, the former counterintelligence officer held a paid event where a photo was shown that Elizondo claimed was a "real photo" of a "mothership" UFO above a U.S. embassy. Within days, the photo was found to be the reflection of a lamp in a window.

The House hearing will also include Tim Gallaudet, a retired U.S. Navy Rear Admiral who unidentified submersible objects, arguing that "these underwater anomalies jeopardize US maritime security." Gallaudet has also told interviewers that his daughter is a "medium" who can communicate with spirits.

https://www.space.com/space-exploration/...w-to-watch

I am looking forward to talking about this hearing about how to talk about this phenomena. There will certainly be one or two interesting tidbits, and perhaps movement signalling acceptable ways to reframe discussion. Hopefully someone will actually ask what 'multidimensional' indicates in practice.

It would also be nice to hear the distinction made between evidence of technology as far as our capability of explanation, non-functional material technolgy evidence, functional but inoperable technology, operable but non-replicable technology, and replicable technology efforts and successes. There's a broad spectrum, only some of which is of active national security concern.

(11-13-2024, 08:28 AM)midicon Wrote:  

Hey midicon, you quoted me, but I can't see your post? 

Are you looking forward to the hearings?