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08-05-2025, 07:33 AM
This post was last modified: 08-05-2025, 07:38 AM by Kwaka. 
Aussie turns down $1.5b AI offer from Zuckerberg
This is not the only cutting edge AI researcher going 'no', is one with a reliable source. When seeing how Zuck handled the covid issues on Facebook, gone the dark side. It is nice to see there are some in the AI community that do actually care about intelligence.
I know a lot of people are scared and worried about the future. I am one of them. With all that is going on in the crypto space, it has taken me a lifetime to understand some of it. In ignorance the fear factor accelerates. There is a power in understanding and why I love this site.
The encroachment of digital life is going on wither we like it or not. I cannot stop that. What I can do is help direct it in a more beneficial way. I am worried about where the hidden black box systems of Microsoft and Zuckerburg are going. Not all of of Microsoft is bad with so much logic flowing through that place, but what is going on with its leadership and so many more active processors doing something I have no clue about? As a user I don't notice a difference from a bare bones Linux so what do these functions benefit? There are some advantages in the 3D gaming community. I don't know about the rest?
Scammers is nothing new, history books full of it. With Zuckerburg getting called on a Billion dollar bet, worth sharing in the struggles to deny ignorance.
Facebook does have a lot of data, with meta looking for more. Heads up
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I am trying to figure out Musk's game. That video you posted seems to be Musk branding himself, as something I think he is not. Who does Musk listen too (believe) when it comes to AI? Musk leans radical right, so we might want to start there when we listen to his views.
AI technology is the future and these billionaires want to control every aspect of that future wealth.
Be wary of crypto, it can be easily manipulated to collapse, as evidenced previously with insider trading.
Elon Musk’s $5.7 billion mystery revealed — he donated Tesla shares to his own charitable foundation - MarketWatch
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From your link:
"And Tulloch – now a co-founder and leading researcher at the startup – was Zuckerberg’s “chief target”."
Tulloch will be part of the future AI boom and that $1.5 Billion will look like a paltry sum.
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08-05-2025, 09:09 AM
This post was last modified: 08-05-2025, 09:11 AM by Kwaka. 
(08-05-2025, 07:53 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Who does Musk listen too
Been on my radar for a while too, with some of the tech he is getting into and contracts he has, part of the technological soup going on. He has an usual patter of speech as well, like he does spend a bit more time thinking about what he says before he says it. Not necessary a bad thing.
I respect how Musk is trying to be candid about the things he can be. His more open nature about things does proved some confidence. The change of direction he brought to Twitter is better than that of Jack Dorsey.
Perhaps it was not appropriate to add that video of Elon in a thread about Zuckerburg. In dealing with the challenges of the swamp, I have found this perspective helpful. Yes bad things do go on, but if it was not for most people trying to do the right thing most of the time we not of made it this far as a species.
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(08-05-2025, 09:09 AM)Kwaka Wrote: Been on my radar for a while too, with some of the tech he is getting into and contracts he has, part of the technological soup going on. He has an usual patter of speech as well, like he does spend a bit more time thinking about what he says before he says it. Not necessary a bad thing.
I respect how Musk is trying to be candid about the things he can be. His more open nature about things does proved some confidence. The change of direction he brought to Twitter is better than that of Jack Dorsey.
Perhaps it was not appropriate to add that video of Elon in a thread about Zuckerburg. In dealing with the challenges of the swamp, I have found this perspective helpful. Yes bad things do go on, but if it was not for most people trying to do the right thing most of the time we not of made it this far as a species.
His changing directions is what I am trying to figure out. What's the end game when changing directions? Anyway, this may be relevant depending on why and how he gets into the AI game.
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08-05-2025, 09:21 AM
This post was last modified: 08-05-2025, 09:24 AM by Unknownparadox. 
(08-05-2025, 07:53 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I am trying to figure out Musk's game. That video you posted seems to be Musk branding himself, as something I think he is not.
I found myself doing the exact same thing for the longest time. Trying to figure out what a persons game is. When I run across people like mucous and suckerburg. And there is a lot of them out there, they all aren't wealthy. I think a lot of people do this. They try to come up with some sort of explanation as to why a person does what they do. The answer really is simple. These people are evil.
These people don't tell you they are evil, that is completely counter productive to their goals, which is. To use you to benefit themselves with the least amount of compensation in return. And that is all they care about.
Could you imagine if mucous and suckerburg along with the rest of the tech giants said. Hey we are collecting your data, not to make your life better, but to make ours better, we are getting rich off of it. And we are using it to control you, and you are so stupid, you don't even realize it. They wouldn't get very far if they told the truth.
While it is a very cynical view this is what the world or at least America has turn into. And it is thanks to theses people. It has affected the young and old alike. While the world has never really been a 100% beautiful place, these people have not done any beautification projects. But if you listen to them, that's all they are doing, is helping humanity. But their results are the exact opposite.
I seen a guy the in wallyworld wearing a shirt that said. Make money, not friends. He definitely wasn't rich. And not as smart as mucous and suckerburg. As he broadcast his actual intentions.
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08-05-2025, 09:26 AM
This post was last modified: 08-05-2025, 09:32 AM by quintessentone. 
(08-05-2025, 09:21 AM)Unknownparadox Wrote: I found myself doing the exact same thing for the longest time. Trying to figure out what a persons game is. When I run across people like mucous and suckerburg. And there is a lot of them out there, they all aren't wealthy. I think a lot of people do this. They try to come up with some sort of explanation as to why a person does what they do. The answer really is simple. These people are evil.
These people don't tell you they are evil, that is completely counter productive to their goals, which is. To use you to benefit themselves with the least amount of compensation in return. And that is all they care about.
Could you imagine if mucous and suckerburg along with the rest of the tech giants said. Hey we are collecting your data, not to make your life better, but to make ours better, we are getting rich off of it. And we are using it to control you, and you are so stupid, you don't even realize it. They wouldn't get very far if they told the truth.
While it is a very cynical view this is what the world or at least America has turn into. And it is thanks to theses people. It has affected the young and old alike. While the world has never really been a 100% beautiful place, these people have not done any beautification projects. But if you listen to them, that's all they are doing, is helping humanity. But their results are the exact opposite.
I seen a guy the in wallyworld wearing a shirt that said. Make money, not friends. He definitely wasn't rich. And not as smart as mucous and suckerburg. As he broadcast his actual intentions.
Exactly, that's why I did a little digging to see if and where Musk's donations went to. Mostly right back to himself.
Why can't a t-shirt read: Make money and friends? Are the two not mutually inclusive, maybe?
As for Zukerburg, he's smart and knows where the future of power, control and wealth is going.
Let's not forget Palantir's involvement:
"Palmer Luckey and Mark Zuckerberg ended their bitter feud to bolster Silicon Valley’s new love affair with the military market"
"But times have changed. And the two tech entrepreneurs are apparently now ready to make up for the sake of making money—and to make America’s military stronger. In so doing, Palmer and Zuck are forging the equally improbable alliance of a startup that builds killer drones and a social network founded with the mission to “bring the world closer together.”"
See how they brand it? "bring the world closer together", what does that mean anyway?
Be afraid, be very afraid when it comes to virtual reality with these two at the helm - "bring the world closer together", indeed.
Palmer Luckey and Mark Zuckerberg ended their bitter feud to bolster Silicon Valley's new love affair with the military market | Fortune
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(08-05-2025, 09:14 AM)quintessentone Wrote: His changing directions is what I am trying to figure out.
Under Jack Dorsey at Twitter, any questions on the official covid narrative where banned. Under Elon, the topic is back on the table. Lot of other political topics in the mix as well.
Under Zuckerburg at Facebook, he was with Jack Dorsey in keeping the public ignorant and in harms way on the covid issues. If public safety is of no concern to Zuckerburg in a pandemic, what hope does the public have in other emergent technology?
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08-05-2025, 09:42 AM
This post was last modified: 08-05-2025, 09:43 AM by quintessentone. 
(08-05-2025, 09:34 AM)Kwaka Wrote: Under Jack Dorsey at Twitter, any questions on the official covid narrative where banned. Under Elon, the topic is back on the table. Lot of other political topics in the mix as well.
Under Zuckerburg at Facebook, he was with Jack Dorsey in keeping the public ignorant and in harms way on the covid issues. If public safety is of no concern to Zuckerburg in a pandemic, what hope does the public have in other emergent technology?
Well the public should not follow any unprofessional person online that thinks they know better than the medical experts; it's called disinformation and misinformation and can lead to death for some people with comorbidities.
That was then, this is now. Not much was known at the beginning of the pandemic about this ever-mutating virus, it was always one step ahead of us, so, of course, protocols and learning changed/shifted as the virus did.
The public should be going on to credible medically peer-reviewed research sites, not on public forums, to get empirical evidence and also discuss it with their doctors. That is where hope should be placed, IMO.
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(08-05-2025, 09:21 AM)Unknownparadox Wrote: While it is a very cynical view this is what the world or at least America has turn into.
That is why I added that video of Musk. I have been there myself, not a good place to be.For some hope before giving up and throwing in the towel, a good perspective.
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(08-05-2025, 09:42 AM)quintessentone Wrote: The public should be going on to credible medically peer-reviewed research sites, not on public forums, to get empirical evidence and also discuss it with their doctors. That is where hope should be placed, IMO.
So leading virologist and intensive care physicians get censored so some nut job that has never treated a patient in their life and is severely compromised by economic intensives gets to operate at the speed of science.
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