(11-06-2025, 05:30 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: That's a regional flood and it occurred 13,000 years ago whereas the Noahs flood was supposedly 4,000 years ago. Not the same thing.
The younger Dryas was from 12,900 to 11,700 years ago, in years BC, that's 10875 BC to 9675 BC.
Younger Dryas - Wikipedia
The flood from the Black Sea (which was a regional flood) occurred about 7,600 years ago, in years BC, that's 5600 BC.
Black Sea deluge hypothesis - Wikipedia
Quote:The Noahs flood says it was covering the whole earth over the mountaintops.
It says the flood was over "all the high hills under all the sky". That could clearly mean 'as far as the eye can see'. There is nothing in the text to indicate that anyone at the time knew that the Earth was a planet, or to suggest that they had knowledge of what was happening beyond their field of vision.
Quote:It says only 8 people survived.
There are 7 human haplotypes. At some time in late prehistory, the entire population of the world was reduced such that there were only 7 fertile ancestral women, and from which the entire human race is descended. This may not have been all at the same time. Many of those haplotypes could have differentiated
before or after the Biblical flood. The point is that genetically, humans could have all descended from the fertile women in the biblical flood account (the wives of the sons of Noah, and we don't know that there were only three wives, either, because only the sons are specifically enumerated).
That the human race all came from a small group of survivors in late prehistory is entirely possible, and even likely, based upon what we know of mitochondrial genetics.
Quote:It says all the worlds animals were saved 2 by 2.
It says a lot more than that.
Most animals were 7 male and female pairs. Birds were 7 pairs. Only the unclean animals were in 2 pairs. God instructed Noah to collect the animals, but it also says that the animals came to the ark "as God had commanded Noah".
The instructions from God clearly did not include intertidal creatures, nor aquatic ones, nor insects. So only a limited subset of land animals were covered in the account. Again the modern assumptions don't align with the actual text.
Also, the period of time from Gods command to Noah and to the start of the flood was probably more than 100 years. The great pyramid was built quicker than that, and there are many 'scientific' accounts as to how allegedly impossible that was, and yet, we have the evidence that it was so, despite the 'scholarly' articles.
The article on the NCSE website, is not scientific. It was written by someone without credentials, was based upon false assumptions, not supported by the full Biblical text, nor does it cite any empirical evidence.
The Mysterious Mr. Moore
The Voyage of Noah's Ark -- An Epilogue
And... If such a construction were physically impossible, what about this freestanding entirely timber construction:
https://arkencounter.com/about/
Quote: This simply did not happen. The story is not true. It's an allegory. I already gave the information showing where the story was stolen from ... the Sumerians pagan story of Gilgimesh ... and the Hebrews reworked it and recrafted it to fit their own religion and culture.
What if the Sumerians were the ones who copied the story? Or, what if they are all describing their own cultural impression of the same event?
It could be pointed out also that if the Hebrews had just nicked the flood from tablet 11 of the Gilgamesh story, instead of the other way around, why did they have non-culture-specific details, that were absent from the Gilgamesh story?
