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What is God and does it exist?
#41
(07-25-2025, 05:45 PM)AlroyFarms Wrote: While I agree with you! 

Come on it is probably the biggest question humanity has ever thought to ask. The meat and potatoes will come with the discussion. OP simply set the table.

We will see, won't we?   I'm not seeing it so far, but there is all the time in the world.
"Everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about.   Be kind.  Always".   -  Darielys Tejera/Spc. Douglas Jay Green/Robin Williams

"Pseudoscience, depending for its “truth” on consensus, is deeply hostile to challenge."   - Rael Jean Isaac
#42
(07-26-2025, 03:27 PM)argentus Wrote: We will see, won't we?   I'm not seeing it so far, but there is all the time in the world.

Feel free to contribute.
#43
(07-26-2025, 03:27 PM)argentus Wrote: We will see, won't we?   I'm not seeing it so far, but there is all the time in the world.


Well since, by your estimation, this thread has possibly fizzled out, 

Can I post some John Lennon?


#44
(07-26-2025, 02:59 AM)Ignorant Wrote: There is good reason to believe it's a simulated universe running on some alien supercomputer but we would never be able to know that for sure. 


So one of my OOBE's (out of body experience) with my implied spirit guide showed me something (this was back in like 2008ish.)

We flew out through space for a bit, saw some cool stuff. But it's mostly empty and boring in space believe it or not. You've seen one nebula and you've seen em all. So I said I wanted to see more, see something really interesting. 

We went out far, far, far and fast! Whoosh! 

Seemingly to the very boundary of the known universe itself. As we approached, the clarity and definition of all I saw started to blur and pixelate. The stars and heavens themselves stopped rendering. 

No words, but the message was clear. I was still a young teen and things like simulation theory and graphic rendering were not in my consciousness at the time. 

In fact, a lot of my early lessons are making more and more sense with the revelation of things like AI and quantum computing.

What a time to be alive!
#45
I have already evaluated if there is a being they refer to as god.  I believe it exists.  The collective consciousness of all life in the Universe and beyond.  Now, that implies that god is the word that is not spoken, a link of some sort that links us to a being that is so vast and diverse that we could not comprehend it's link without going through the collective consciousness of all life on this planet, a tiny part of god as a whole.  This local collective consciousness is not god though, it is like a molecule in your body.  Not even a cell of the body, but the basis of the cell of the body.  A molecule in my body is not me, it is a part of me. We could link to this local collective consciousness, elements of it are everywhere in nature on this planet.

Now how this is possible I do not know and it would be hard to prove it.  Translating the info coming through this link is done based on your individual beliefs and the knowledge you hold.  God would not be anyone's to control, we have no right to judge because not one of us is linked strong enough and has a completely open mind to properly translate this link even if the message is actually clear, we will translate it to fit our beliefs. 

So this is actually my analysis of what I believe god to be.  Only through the local part of god could we communicate with god itself.  When we die if we are accepted into the collective consciousness of this planet, it provides a link to all we are associated to, and our knowledge does not go to this place with us, but whom we are connected to, we can access their knowledge and pass it on.  If somone feels a crystal we have put our knowledge into, that info can be made available with translation, and get to the connected spirit in that collective consciousness I have named Son Hay Yah (sounds like).to remember it by.  No  clue how to actually spell that in one word....just a way of relating to it.

Now the angels, they would be the ahthors.  They develop the script of our reality, and I would say they would almost be like a very powerful computer program which can be asked for help. 

Now remember, if you think you are talking to god and get a response, it may be you are linking to other people, or even your cat.  So beware of trusting any answers, we can link to others through this link, others we share beliefs with or are related to.  Or you may be connecting to a crazy person or even animal or tree for all I know.  You also might be connecting to evil beings, I have not evaluated demons at all yet, I have no clue what they are...nothing seems legit when researching demons, info is all over the place..maybe they are just evil spirits that did not get allowed into Sanhayah.

These are possibilities, I may be wrong, right, or partially wrong or right, or just plain nuts.

But I choose to believe in the being they refer to as god and the local presence...maybe that local presence is actually what some call mother earth for all I know.  I almost believe that mother earth would be a suitable for Sanhaya.  So, since everyone is nuts about something, I guess believing in god makes me normal. Saint2

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#46
(07-26-2025, 11:03 AM)Maxmars Wrote: I think the first solution towards ascertaining "What is God?" has to be 

coming to accept that our vision is limited to the three dimensions we live in.

Hooray for Quantum Theory that goes beyond those physical dimensions.

Perhaps we are lightwaves born from particles with an ability to recharge, grow, move and condense until we can create a new particle. And maybe, like the double slit experiment, we as humans also get distracted when observed and interacted with.

Maybe we are the lightwaves in between each particle, each God.

Scale that concept any way and choose a perspective. It's fun.

Wisdom knocks quietly, always listen carefully.... and be a River flowing calmly.
#47
(07-26-2025, 05:25 AM)midicon Wrote: I think the idea of God sprang from the old volcano and natural phenomena. Over the millennia  people have dressed up that nonsense with metaphysics and philosophy culminating in the woeful theologies we have today.

Show me a God or something a God has done. No one can because it's nonsense. The whole idea of it shows how dumb and gullible people are.

We've created volumes of work due to the concepts of the divine, God might not exist or might've only set things in motion (Deism) yet the idea evolved into concepts that's independently and consistently deployed throughout history. 

If we're dumb and gullible due to believing in a God does that mean we're dumb and gullible for believing in anything? Because it's all originally thoughts/ideas evolving into development. 

Maybe God is no more than a shoe, a development that causes plenty of trouble and strife but is ultimately better than the alternative considering the state of reality. 

God might be artificial but then so are we.
#48
(07-27-2025, 06:44 PM)Ray1990 Wrote: Maybe God is no more than a shoe, a development that causes plenty of trouble and strife but is ultimately better than the alternative considering the state of reality. 

God might be artificial but then so are we.

I'm curious, what is the state of reality and in what way are we artificial?
#49
Quote:You have to decide:
You can look with a microscope and how the apparition appears, be it natural phenomena or a lens flare. You will write this story for infinity. It has to manifest
You can say "there must be no possible explanation". You will write this story for infinity. It is not explainable

OR

You can divine the meaning

Lot's of proof and it's in fact not even debatable, it's just willfully ignored

"say the lords prayer and repent"
#50
(07-27-2025, 11:27 PM)midicon Wrote: I'm curious, what is the state of reality and in what way are we artificial?


The state of human reality is artificial due to the technological extension of our activities. It probably started with food and boiled over into every aspect of our thoughts/influence.

All of our activities might have equivalents in nature but nothing in nature has writing and language skills like us which seemingly is a huge step in pooling knowledge and ideas. Ideas of the divine are evidently a big talking point within human interaction given the understanding of history we have. Whenever we see historical culture we see reference to the revered and the holy which I would say indicates that having a concept of the divine enhances a group's ability to comprehend and grow.

In short, it all goes hand in hand. God might be an invention (artificial) but that's par for the course within a human world, surely?



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