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What is God and does it exist?
#1
That's right we're asking the big questions.
#2
(07-25-2025, 04:39 PM)Ignorant Wrote: That's right we're asking the big questions.

It depends on what you believe, what you've lived, and how you make sense of the world.

In the end, it's a personal question more than a universal answer.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#3
Right so what's your answer?
#4
(07-25-2025, 04:55 PM)Ignorant Wrote: Right so what's your answer?

I'm open to the possibility of a god or creator force.

But not one that demands our worship or attendance.

And certainly not one who would punish our souls for eternity.

Over simple disobedience or disagreement.

I think i have seen far too much violence and hatred in this world.

To entertain the notion that we are gods' special little anything. 

Best to hedge one's bet all the same.

After all, if im wrong, im never going to know.  Saint2
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#5
Being the particular style of idiot that I am....

Questions which need answering in order to properly frame the answer...

"What is God?" can never be answered for you...
a meaningful - contextually full - answer must be formulated within yourself...
or it's just "words."

Of course that is assuming the question is sincere.. and not the opening volley of:
"What about this travesty of pain and suffering?" etc. etc. (In other words, only to deconstruct.)

If you are expecting a finger pointing to the moon... congrats.
If you are expecting an email address, profile, and exciting pics... well... 
.. you can expect anything.

Your answer can only be approximated in dialogue ... never resolved.
And that presumes some degree of cooperation in the discussion.

It appears as ancient wisdom... God is in the search.
You have to intend to find him... not just toss stones into the pond.
#6
(07-25-2025, 04:39 PM)Ignorant Wrote: That's right we're asking the big questions.
The big questions deserve big answers.

So, I will attempt it simply. I don't know all the gods or even everything about any particular god, or even the number of types of god.

But there are two kinds of god that I can mention: 1) the real and 2) the imagined.

1) The real gods definition: Those who existed before me, will even exist after I die, and without whom I would not exist.

There are obviously, the Earth. The Sky. The Ocean. The Sun. The Moon.
and since Jupitar, I have heard, is so massive that it's gravity has served to deflect asteroids and comets that would have struck the Earth, qualifies also. It's not possible to list them all.

2) The imagined gods Definition:  pretty much all those called gods by people that don't fit into the  category of real. There are those who appear in stories as characters. That may be a primary source for the ones that dwell in people's imaginations. If imagination is real than these gods are real. This gets confusing because I just used the word real in different ways.

But the imagined gods only live in an individual's imagination as long as that individual lives. So they don't qualify as being the 1) real gods.
There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people. - Commander William Adama
#7
(07-25-2025, 04:39 PM)Ignorant Wrote: That's right we're asking the big questions.

Another pertinent question might be, who do you consider to be correct?

Given that organised religious practices are clearly not in agreement.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#8
(07-25-2025, 05:25 PM)Maxmars Wrote: "What about this travesty of pain and suffering?" 

Death is part of the cycle. That's a given. 

Pain and suffering is a tougher one. I'll paraphrase what I've said in other posts.

What impetus do we have to move towards God if everything is cupcakes and rainbows all the time? It's a fishbowl.

Instead, pain and suffering is an effective mentor. It's an effective drive to remove oneself from pain and suffering (if you'll forgive the circular logic.)

Seeking God is a treasure, a prize, a secret garden. It isn't just handed to you. It begins with desire and passion. Only then is the seed planted and grows with nurturance. 

Why do humans seek to cause pain and suffering on each other? Because they have not began to foster anything deeper within themselves and live devil-may-care. They do not see the divinity in each other.
#9
(07-25-2025, 04:42 PM)andy06shake Wrote: It depends on what you believe, what you've lived, and how you make sense of the world.

In the end, it's a personal question more than a universal answer.

This is my issue with the world today. At some point, we must all come to the consensus that there is a 'universal truth'.

Beliefs really don't mean squat. What 'is', is all that matters. I do believe the veil is being lifted. We will see if they succeed in suppressing us once again.

This reality is not what most people think.....
#10
So I will try not to give a pedantic answer here. 
 
Quote:In the early universe, electroweak symmetry breaking, which unified the weak and electromagnetic forces, occurred at a temperature of approximately 159.5 ± 1.5 GeV (giga-electron volts). This corresponds to roughly 10^-12 seconds after the Big Bang.

And now tell me WHY electroweak symmetry breaks at approximately 159.5 ±1.5 GeV?  

Seems that there were quite specific parameters from the get go, or at least phase transition thresholds in place before the early universe even set its fundimental forces. 

Priori is the bane of theoretical physics.
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