What Campbells Soup VP Says About Their Products and Customers

[putnam6]

My daughter roasts or grills her asparagus quite often.  I usually boil it.  It is too easy to overcook it making it tough when grilling or roasting it.  I like it both ways, but I tend to use it mostly added to soup.  Cream of asparagus soup in a can is expensive and I would guess that most of the anti-epileptic properties go away in the processing.  When I make cream of asparagus, it is chuck full of pieces of asparagus.  I bet if I fried the asparagus for like four minutes in a combo of refined coconut oil and butter, it would be great in the soup.  I tend to use asparagus mostly for it's anti-epileptic properties and since the wife hates it, I tend not to broil it.  If I have some and the daughter comes over...so it pays to cook up a batch since her husband also loves it, it is worth going through the extra work.  But leftover roasted or grilled asparagus does not taste that good to me.  Asparagains in asparagus  are calming chemistry.  Potatoes also have asparagain in them, and of course asparagains coupled with starch creat acrylamides at high heat when cooking.  But asparagus is not as much a problem as fried potatoes for causing increased cancer risk, because it is low in starch while the potato is high in it.  Not sure exactly what the reaction does, but I am not afraid of frying thin sliced potatoes in bacon grease.  Potatoes that are stored in the fridge are at more risk of creating acrylamides I guess, because the starch changes. 

If you sautee the thin sliced potatoes and just get them browned lightly, not much chance of increasing cancer risk.  If you burn them...yeah, risk goes up but burnt fried potatoes taste like crap...I usually toss any burnt ones in the garbage.  They also taste great fried in homemade beef tallow or bone grease.  I make both at home and have a good supply.  We aren't getting a half a head of grass fed organic beef this year either, but we are buying a hundred pounds of beef, plus soup bones and marrow bones and also some short ribs....the people we get our half cow from cut their herd down by slaughtering more cows, so less calfs and less to sell now.  But the guy had some health problems, needed shoulder surgery and some autoimmune issues, which are now somewhat better or fixed, so they are trying to get their herd back up again, but it is expensive to buy the calfs if they don't have their own certified cows give them calves.  So it will take a few years.

Two years now without a half head of beef.  Having withdrawals.  Can't afford to buy their T-bone steaks and rib steaks and porterhouse steaks...way more than hamburger, sirloin steaks, and brisket which cost about eight bucks a pound.  When buying the half, hamburger and better costs about seven bucks a pound with slaughtering and cutting and wrapping costs.

Man, I'm gonna have a beef tallow fried potato sandwich for breakfast tomorrow, sans gallbladder

We discussed this before. I try and eat healthy, and I do pretty well losing or maintaining weight. The change since I've limited dairy is noticeable. I'll still backslide occasionally, but it's less and less. 

Im so ignorant of the effects of what I stuff my face with every day, thought I was doing ok with a baked potato mashed with a little coconut oil, onions, nutritional yeast, and imitation bacon bits, it's my go to, and now Im afraid to ask what's wrong with it.

[rickymouse]

Man, I'm gonna have a beef tallow fried potato sandwich for breakfast tomorrow, sans gallbladder

We discussed this before. I try and eat healthy, and I do pretty well losing or maintaining weight. The change since I've limited dairy is noticeable. I'll still backslide occasionally, but it's less and less. 

Im so ignorant of the effects of what I stuff my face with every day, thought I was doing ok with a baked potato mashed with a little coconut oil, onions, nutritional yeast, and imitation bacon bits, it's my go to, and now Im afraid to ask what's wrong with it.

Well, afraid to ask Bwack bwack.....what is wrong with that.  coconut oil is good, but butter tastes better.  Nutritional yeast is ok for those who need it.  Immitation bacon bits suck, use real bacon.  The onions are good with potatoes.  What the hell are imitation bacon bits made of anyway?????  All I know about them is they are not nearly as good as real bacon. I never checked.

some guys in a quire from England that were singing in a church my wife went to years ago.  two of them stayed with us while they were here, a couple of days.  That was ttwenty five  years ago.  Knowing nothing about how they ate in England, I made breakfast.  Scrambled eggs, homemade pancakes, hash browns, and about three pounds of bacon.  The two guys were very happy, on their tour around the USA, they stayed with lots of people and those people always made them healthy food....I made them things they enjoyed in Cornwell where they were from.  They said they always have a rash of bacon at breakfast...don't have a clue what a rash is.

Also, took the guys to the rifle range and we shot some of my guns, including the three fifty seven desert eagle I have. and my deer rifle  They had never shot a pistol or rifle, they said they were not allowed to own anything other than a shotgun where they lived.  We also drove around in my 4x4 full size ford work truck.  I guess there they have little trucks in England most people drive.  Sounds like a boring country.  When we were across the road at the gun club, we had a beer, they were playing in a church group, but I guess they drank beer...which nobody else offered them in the USA on their tour.  We had fresh whitefish from the fish house too, but they said they eat lots of fish, they are from cornwell so that did not impress them much.

After all those years, I still chat with one of them on Facebook, the other one died a few years ago now.  I did have him as a facebook friend too.  Both of them were maybe ten years older than I am so they are probably in their eighties...at least the one alive is.  I guess he quit the singing though now.

Don't mind that I spelled choir wrong above, I often spell things like they sound and I never spell checked it till I posted it.

[putnam6]

Well, afraid to ask Bwack bwack.....what is wrong with that.  coconut oil is good, but butter tastes better.  Nutritional yeast is ok for those who need it.  Immitation bacon bits suck, use real bacon.  The onions are good with potatoes.  What the hell are imitation bacon bits made of anyway?????  All I know about them is they are not nearly as good as real bacon. I never checked.

some guys in a quire from England that were singing in a church my wife went to years ago.  two of them stayed with us while they were here, a couple of days.  That was ttwenty five  years ago.  Knowing nothing about how they ate in England, I made breakfast.  Scrambled eggs, homemade pancakes, hash browns, and about three pounds of bacon.  The two guys were very happy, on their tour around the USA, they stayed with lots of people and those people always made them healthy food....I made them things they enjoyed in Cornwell where they were from.  They said they always have a rash of bacon at breakfast...don't have a clue what a rash is.

Also, took the guys to the rifle range and we shot some of my guns, including the three fifty seven desert eagle I have. and my deer rifle  They had never shot a pistol or rifle, they said they were not allowed to own anything other than a shotgun where they lived.  We also drove around in my 4x4 full size ford work truck.  I guess there they have little trucks in England most people drive.  Sounds like a boring country.  When we were across the road at the gun club, we had a beer, they were playing in a church group, but I guess they drank beer...which nobody else offered them in the USA on their tour.  We had fresh whitefish from the fish house too, but they said they eat lots of fish, they are from cornwell so that did not impress them much.

After all those years, I still chat with one of them on Facebook, the other one died a few years ago now.  I did have him as a facebook friend too.  Both of them were maybe ten years older than I am so they are probably in their eighties...at least the one alive is.  I guess he quit the singing though now.

Don't mind that I spelled choir wrong above, I often spell things like they sound and I never spell checked it till I posted it.

I always learn from your posts, you've lived an interesting life..


Thats good to hear, Nutritional yeast is purely for a cheesy umami , but it's so easy and fills me up

I thought my baked potato combo was healthy, and yes I prefer butter and cheese too.... I do use the real bacon, but I'll use imitation when Im in a rush, basically freeze-dried bacon-flavored Spam and I like Spam... besides it's about a tablespoon worth....

I thought a rash was approximate like a US pound of bacon...

[rickymouse]

I always learn from your posts, you've lived an interesting life..


Thats good to hear, Nutritional yeast is purely for a cheesy umami , but it's so easy and fills me up

I thought my baked potato combo was healthy, and yes I prefer butter and cheese too.... I do use the real bacon, but I'll use imitation when Im in a rush, basically freeze-dried bacon-flavored Spam and I like Spam... besides it's about a tablespoon worth....

I thought a rash was approximate like a US pound of bacon...

Actually, the nutritional yeast has some good vitamins and even some minerals in it.  I like the taste, but since I cannot break down tyramines because of a lack of an enzyme, it will wind up giving me a headache if I eat more than a tad bit.  I was originally diagnosed in the mid sixties with the cheese headaches, that was the doctors exact words.  So from that point on I knew not to eat much ummami...but still did and suffered with headaches a third of my life.  I rarely get headaches anymore since I have figured ways to fix the issue.  My wife likes the ummami foods, and of course I used to like to have a few beers after work.  So I spent a third of my life with brain fog and headaches...but I knew better, I just wanted to act like my friends and suffered because of it.  It is not just alcohol that gives me a hangover.  Sulfites and nitrites in food give me headaches, plus anything with worstenshire sauce or soy sauce or many other aged things and especially real aged cheeses do.  I just had to start saying no to those things.  I do not have to fit in with friends and family, Although my wife can not comprehend what I am talking about, she can eat that stuff and have no problems.

By taking a molybdenum supplement to increase MOCO enzymes...just one and a half time the daily requirement with a copper supplement at a hundred percent to stop a deficiency in copper, I cut down most of my sulfite and nitrite problems when eating them in foods.  I still will get some effect, I am just not getting nearly as bad of symptoms now.  So I can eat a little more without having problems.  I still cannot eat much raisins or dried fruits high in sulfur compounds, but I can eat a little without getting the headaches.  The MOCo enzymes help with both nitrite and sulfite detox, also some single carbon metabolism stuff.  Aldehydes in fragrences used to trigger a sharp headache, they also require molybdenum coenzymes to create the aldehyde dehydrogenase.  So by fixing a problem that makes me able to make some other enzymes by taking a supplement so I can get a little boost in making multiple enzymes, I have hardly any headaches of multiple types.  All the headaches are often classified as migraines by doctors.

So basically I have found a way to get rid of migraines I had all my life till I started taking molybdenum around eighteen years ago.  I actually stumbled upon this by originally taking a coloidal mineral and multimineral supplement a worker at the herbal store said I should try.....it was supposed to help to take away some symptoms I got from the epilepsy meds, but it wound up getting rid of my headaches.  So I decided to research and got a reason, then later I got my DNA done from ancestry and bought some gene apps.  The MOCO deficiency stood out with double reds, but there is more to it...taking a supplement every day helped, I guess I do make a little of it if I have molybdenum supplements, but it is reduced, so I need to take a medium supplement every day to handle the problem.  No articles I have found have actually shown that it will help fix multiple problems or even one problem...but it works for me and I will take it the rest of my life...mostly to keep headaches and brain fog at bay.....will it work for others with headaches?  Don't know, but maybe they could try it...it is cheap...but copper supplements need to also be taken with molybdenum too, just a hundred percent RDA

Too much molybdenum is also not good for a person, between one hundred percent and two hundred percent RDA with some copper is usually ok.  But not something you should take high doses of.  Liver is rich in it, so are some grains, but I have problems if I eat even moderate amounts of grains like wheat and oats.

If you dry a fruit or food with sulfate in it, it turns to sulfites...which preserve it.

If you dry a food with nitrates in it, it turns to nitrites, which also preserves the vegi or herb.  When you eat a piece of lettuce, our enzymes turn the nitrates into nitrites quickly, and then in digestion some turn to nitrides which kill bacteria of certain types.  Nitrides also metabolize to nitrous oxide, which will expand the blood vessels somewhat to keep them flexible...so eating veggies in the diet in moderation is good for you.

Now when nitrites are used to preserve meats, then smoked or cured, nitrosamines form.  That chemistry can be problematic for health.  but veggies in soup with meats..not too much of a problem, although nitrites are in the soup which helps to protect the soup or food from food poisoning.

[Hypntick]

I'm just upset they discontinued their clam chowder; it was the only one without celery in it. Can't stand celery, so I ended up just making my own. Doesn't taste as good as what came out of that little can, if I'm being honest.

[putnam6]

Actually, the nutritional yeast has some good vitamins and even some minerals in it.  I like the taste, but since I cannot break down tyramines because of a lack of an enzyme, it will wind up giving me a headache if I eat more than a tad bit.  I was originally diagnosed in the mid sixties with the cheese headaches, that was the doctors exact words.  So from that point on I knew not to eat much ummami...but still did and suffered with headaches a third of my life.  I rarely get headaches anymore since I have figured ways to fix the issue.  My wife likes the ummami foods, and of course I used to like to have a few beers after work.  So I spent a third of my life with brain fog and headaches...but I knew better, I just wanted to act like my friends and suffered because of it.  It is not just alcohol that gives me a hangover.  Sulfites and nitrites in food give me headaches, plus anything with worstenshire sauce or soy sauce or many other aged things and especially real aged cheeses do.  I just had to start saying no to those things.  I do not have to fit in with friends and family, Although my wife can not comprehend what I am talking about, she can eat that stuff and have no problems.

By taking a molybdenum supplement to increase MOCO enzymes...just one and a half time the daily requirement with a copper supplement at a hundred percent to stop a deficiency in copper, I cut down most of my sulfite and nitrite problems when eating them in foods.  I still will get some effect, I am just not getting nearly as bad of symptoms now.  So I can eat a little more without having problems.  I still cannot eat much raisins or dried fruits high in sulfur compounds, but I can eat a little without getting the headaches.  The MOCo enzymes help with both nitrite and sulfite detox, also some single carbon metabolism stuff.  Aldehydes in fragrences used to trigger a sharp headache, they also require molybdenum coenzymes to create the aldehyde dehydrogenase.  So by fixing a problem that makes me able to make some other enzymes by taking a supplement so I can get a little boost in making multiple enzymes, I have hardly any headaches of multiple types.  All the headaches are often classified as migraines by doctors.

So basically I have found a way to get rid of migraines I had all my life till I started taking molybdenum around eighteen years ago.  I actually stumbled upon this by originally taking a coloidal mineral and multimineral supplement a worker at the herbal store said I should try.....it was supposed to help to take away some symptoms I got from the epilepsy meds, but it wound up getting rid of my headaches.  So I decided to research and got a reason, then later I got my DNA done from ancestry and bought some gene apps.  The MOCO deficiency stood out with double reds, but there is more to it...taking a supplement every day helped, I guess I do make a little of it if I have molybdenum supplements, but it is reduced, so I need to take a medium supplement every day to handle the problem.  No articles I have found have actually shown that it will help fix multiple problems or even one problem...but it works for me and I will take it the rest of my life...mostly to keep headaches and brain fog at bay.....will it work for others with headaches?  Don't know, but maybe they could try it...it is cheap...but copper supplements need to also be taken with molybdenum too, just a hundred percent RDA

Too much molybdenum is also not good for a person, between one hundred percent and two hundred percent RDA with some copper is usually ok.  But not something you should take high doses of.  Liver is rich in it, so are some grains, but I have problems if I eat even moderate amounts of grains like wheat and oats.

If you dry a fruit or food with sulfate in it, it turns to sulfites...which preserve it.

If you dry a food with nitrates in it, it turns to nitrites, which also preserves the vegi or herb.  When you eat a piece of lettuce, our enzymes turn the nitrates into nitrites quickly, and then in digestion some turn to nitrides which kill bacteria of certain types.  Nitrides also metabolize to nitrous oxide, which will expand the blood vessels somewhat to keep them flexible...so eating veggies in the diet in moderation is good for you.

Now when nitrites are used to preserve meats, then smoked or cured, nitrosamines form.  That chemistry can be problematic for health.  but veggies in soup with meats..not too much of a problem, although nitrites are in the soup which helps to protect the soup or food from food poisoning.

Yeah Iwas trying to find a dish I enjoy but make healthier. I love cheese, but I do a lot better without it.

Nutritional Yeast at least semi-mimics the flavor. I prefer butter, but coconut oil, too, seems to sit better in my gullet. 

Baked for an hour with a little beef tallow brushed on the outside and a little Bay seasoning, and it's my go-to.

[rickymouse]

I'm just upset they discontinued their clam chowder; it was the only one without celery in it. Can't stand celery, so I ended up just making my own. Doesn't taste as good as what came out of that little can, if I'm being honest.

When did campbells discontinue the clam Chowder?  It had to be in the last year, because I bought some last summer.  They had a sale at Meijers, all of the cans of campbells cream soups were a buck in groups of four.  I got two cans of the chowder, still have one left...it is probably close to the best buy date in the canned good sections of our stock.  Usually we use the can goods by the best buy date, except spam, it can last forever, sometimes spam is a year past the best buy date in our rotation, but I think that they are all within that date presently.  We have thrown out some of the can goods, sometimes they are recalled, a few times I filled out the paperwork and they send coupons for new ones, but if there is only one, I usually just toss it out.  If it is just recalled for undeclared ingredients, like milk, eggs, or wheat, I just use it, why go through the work filling out forms and putting down the can numbers only to get a coupon for a free can sent to us in the mail. 

The only can we had blow up on us when opening was a can of cat food, it blew so hard when I pulled the ring, it flew out of my hand and the liquid even hit the ceiling.  That can was not even close to being expired, it had about eight months to go to the best by date.  The cat was trying to get at the mess on the floor, it must have smelled good to it, I had to keep pushing it away as I was cleaning it up with a whole roll of paper towel.....I had to mop the floor too, who knows what kind of bacteria was in that can.

[Hypntick]

Yeah had to have been in the last year, I've got a couple of cans left and when I went to the store for more I couldn't find it. Did some research online and contacted Campbell's, I got a dollar off coupon and an apology for changing their lineup. Some have said to add canned diced clams to the cream of potato, haven't tried it yet, but it makes sense.

[Quantum12]

I always learn from your posts, you've lived an interesting life..


Thats good to hear, Nutritional yeast is purely for a cheesy umami , but it's so easy and fills me up

I thought my baked potato combo was healthy, and yes I prefer butter and cheese too.... I do use the real bacon, but I'll use imitation when Im in a rush, basically freeze-dried bacon-flavored Spam and I like Spam... besides it's about a tablespoon worth....

I thought a rash was approximate like a US pound of bacon...

I have too learned a lot from his posts!

[putnam6]

I'm just upset they discontinued their clam chowder; it was the only one without celery in it. Can't stand celery, so I ended up just making my own. Doesn't taste as good as what came out of that little can, if I'm being honest.

In a pinch 

Campbell's cream of potato 

can of minced clams 

I sautee the clams briefly, season to your tastes, I do Old Bay, lemon, onion, bacon bits 

add the soup with a can of milk or I prefer half and half, and bring to a slow boil and simmer  

it's even better when you add on to the chunky ClamChowder or Progresso versions

It's good right off the stove BUT it's better left over in the fridge and reheated all the flavors meld together,

which is why the canned version is so good