We are born free!

[ANNEE]

Just tell me what to post and obey, so I don't get banned.

Tempting - but NO. 

I would prefer you add your own perspective — one that would generate furthering discussion of thread topic. 

Within the guidelines that are set for everyone.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Just tell me what to post and obey, so I don't get banned.

Please dont be a martyr, and I will be honest why I removed your post. 

It's the wishes of website ownership to curb this partisan behavior.

It wasn't THAT you expressed your view, it was HOW. 

It came off like the REAL goal was to start the same old thing all over again. The Trevor's Axiom of left/right politics. 

Can you convince me you didn't desire someone liberal to be offended by you insinuating people who support abortion are anti-freedom? MO says you were trying to start a back and forth that ends in vitriol.

Why else bring up abortion? It wasnt necessary to your point "we are created."

The creation one was fine on its own. 

 But is adding the bit about abortion really necessary to expand your "god's creation" argument? *or* was it to add extra inflamatory commentary and bait a hook for the first ideomotor liberal to bite and be offended? 

But if it continues to be a hill to die on, more post removals and warnings will follow.

[RazorV66]

It's the the wishes of website ownership to curb this partisan behavior.

I find it strange how several Right leaning members have banned recently and Left leaning, anti-Trump members have become Mods.

That seems to go against your statement there.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

I find it strange how several Right leaning members have banned recently and Left leaning, anti-Trump members have become Mods.

That seems to go against your statement there.

andy has been a mod for like almost a year now and the only new mods are me and ideo and you know damn well I do not lean. Carp was banned, do you consider him a right leaning member? You guys are being ridiculous the only people getting in trouble are the ones constantly breaking terms and conditions. 

In fact the only right leaning member I remember getting banned in the last 7 days was flyersfan for cussing up  a storm and acting a fool. The kid completely lost it. This site welcomes everyone, its terms are simple, follow them or fall on your own swords. Anywhere you go in life has similar rules. Get over this nonsense and stop throwing a tantrum. Or don't.

[Shadow]

I find it strange how several Right leaning members have banned recently and Left leaning, anti-Trump members have become Mods.

That seems to go against your statement there.

3 staff members were banned for recruitment. That's it. Their political beliefs, while often disruptive due to bias, had nothing to do with their banning. Recruitment has never been allowed, and they all know better. 

Politics are irrelevant now anyway. DP is closed. If you guys can't keep this thread on topic, we'll have to close it too.

[Astyanax]

Any intelligent person could easily contrive to express themselves in that way...

I’m not so sure. Intelligence is all very well, but the problem when it comes to self-expression is that some of us cannot control or conceal our fear and hatred, and so cannot help but lash out. Worse still are those who delude themselves that they have a God-given right to make themselves as obnoxious as possible ‘because free speech’. Insult is then the only means of expression their feelings permit them.

[andy06shake]

We are created free, not born free.

Thats not what evolution suggests...

[andy06shake]

We are the result of a biological mechanism called reproduction.

Something every species and living organism does in some way shape or form.

Really not that special.

Free?  Do you believe in reincarnation of the energy soul?  Are you recycled?

But I do think most of us spend the majority of our lives unlearning teachings forced upon us.

Imagine if the inner you were just "allowed to be" from birth.  Who would you be?

Reincarnation makes little sense to me.

Punishment for something you cannot remember doing is a pointless exercise.

And believing something you did in a previous life is responsible for what happens to you in this one is simply counterproductive to existance.  

If you can't remember or retain personality from a previous existence.

It's apt to be rather unclear what you are being rewarded or punished for in this one. 

Reincarnation pretty much rationalises suffering rather than addressing the causes and inequalities in this life...

It explains suffering as the result of past actions, which, if you ask me, slides into victim-blaming pretty easily or with little fuss.

[chr0naut]

Reincarnation makes little sense to me.

Punishment for something you cannot remember doing is a pointless exercise.

And believing something you did in a previous life is responsible for what happens to you in this one is simply counterproductive to existance.  

If you can't remember or retain personality from a previous existence.

It's apt to be rather unclear what you are being rewarded or punished for in this one. 

Reincarnation pretty much rationalises suffering rather than addressing the causes and inequalities in this life...

It explains suffering as the result of past actions, which, if you ask me, slides into victim-blaming pretty easily or with little fuss.

I always wondered about prayer wheels, where you write some prayer on paper and then spin it around so it repeats and repeats...

I mean, what sort of deity gets off on fidget spinners?

... and, is the plural of chi, cheese?

[DBCowboy]

Please dont be a martyr, and I will be honest why I removed your post. 

It's the wishes of website ownership to curb this partisan behavior.

It wasn't THAT you expressed your view, it was HOW. 

It came off like the REAL goal was to start the same old thing all over again. The Trevor's Axiom of left/right politics. 

Can you convince me you didn't desire someone liberal to be offended by you insinuating people who support abortion are anti-freedom? MO says you were trying to start a back and forth that ends in vitriol.

Why else bring up abortion? It wasnt necessary to your point "we are created."

The creation one was fine on its own. 

 But is adding the bit about abortion really necessary to expand your "god's creation" argument? *or* was it to add extra inflamatory commentary and bait a hook for the first ideomotor liberal to bite and be offended? 

But if it continues to be a hill to die on, more post removals and warnings will follow.

But being "born free" implies that the individual being born is a human.