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04-25-2026, 10:55 PM
This post was last modified: 04-25-2026, 11:05 PM by BeyondKnowledge. 
(04-25-2026, 03:52 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: So the "gotcha" is that an object cant elipiltically orbit another object in elipitical motion? Something along those lines?
Atermis II has to be a super impossible object then?
Because Artemis II did a free return flyby of a moving moon - that has an eliptical orbit around a moving planet - in an elipiltical orbit around a moving star - that is in an elliptical orbit around a moving galaxy - that has a barycenter with a moving Andromeda - within a moving local group of galaxies - that is part of a larger moving Virgo supercluster - which is part of the Lankea Superstructure - WITH ALL THAT (relative to CBM) moving towards "The Great Attractor."
And that's only covering the relative motion of 100,000 of 2 trillion galaxies, or 0.000005% of the observable universe!
Heliocentrism: The apex of really really wanting to be cosmically significant..
But all you need is a little knowledge of annoying math, which i don't personally have, but i know it conceptually enough to know its a lot of freaking calculus, like calculating angular momentum. So I'm going with their proofs that say it's all perfectly sound and predicted by centuries of people that know math.
So here's some Tool... Bad Religion instead...
[Video: https://youtu.be/nHjYLz9eF7w?si=JvK5zIuKyuaZxCvH]
It all depends on your frame of reference. To get to the Moon and back only uses orbital dynamics of two objects as those two objects and traveling together. The Suns motion around the galaxy and the galaxies motion are irrevlamt in such a short distance. Those factors only need considering when leaving our solar system. The objects within the solar system can be considered as only orbiting the Sun by any navigation without leaving this solar system. The planets do interact with each other in orbit but as any catastrophic instability has worked itself out long ago. This is proven by historic records of observation of the planets.
Also any wobbles produced by the interactions of the planetary objects within this solar system need not be taken into account on any missions lasting at less than tens of Earth years. At that timeline, the planetary positions could be off by many miles but even that is a very tiny amount.
Now about the helical videos. They are good but fail to take into consideration the tilt of the ecliptic to the direction of travel of the Sun. Also they move the camera around so much it looses much of the observable perspective. This one shows these better along with motion through our galaxy which is also in motion through the universe not shown in this video.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
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(04-25-2026, 10:55 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: It all depends on your frame of reference. To get to the Moon and back only uses orbital dynamics of two objects as those two objects and traveling together. The Suns motion around the galaxy and the galaxies motion are irrevlamt in such a short distance. Those factors only need considering when leaving our solar system. The objects within the solar system can be considered as only orbiting the Sun by any navigation without leaving this solar system.
It's like moving from one seat to another inside a bus moving at a constant speed and no changes of direction, you don't need to know the speed and direction of the bus to do it.
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04-26-2026, 04:14 AM
This post was last modified: 04-26-2026, 05:35 AM by quintessentone. 
Another contradiction to the notion of Earth being flat when it comes to orbital paths:
" Flat Earth Contradiction: Search results indicate that flat Earth models struggle to explain basic astronomical observations, such as why the Moon appears round and maintains a consistent spherical shape regardless of its position in the sky. If the Earth were flat and the Moon a disc, the Moon would appear as an oval at low elevation angles, which contradicts observation." (LLM)
https://www.simonhanmer52.ca/orbital-mechanics.html
"If the Earth were a flat disc, the moon would appear significantly larger when high in the sky compared to when it is rising or setting, due to perspective effects inherent in flat-earth geometry. Additionally, observers at different locations on the flat disc would see different faces and orientations of the moon, rather than the identical "face side" visible to everyone on a spherical Earth. - Size Variation: Flat-earth models predict the moon should appear much larger when overhead because it is closer to the center of the disc; however, observations show the moon maintains a consistent angular size, with any perceived size changes being an optical illusion.
- Viewing Angle: On a flat Earth, the moon would likely appear oval or distorted at low elevation angles if it were a disc, or reveal parts of its far side if it were a sphere, whereas spherical Earth geometry keeps the moon’s orientation consistent relative to the viewer's local horizon.
- Phase Consistency: In flat-earth models, the moon phases in the northern and southern hemispheres would be opposite to each other, but actual observations show that the moon's phase is consistent globally at any given moment.
AI-generated answer.
This video explains where flat earthers fail.
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04-27-2026, 12:17 AM
This post was last modified: 04-27-2026, 03:15 AM by Knows. 
Where's the curvature? Provable reasons that something isn't quite right about the Official Story's. This is a pretty good video for those interested in the Flat Earth theories. Most of what he says makes a lot of sense.
Nobody believes the Earth is a disc floating in space. Neil deGrasse Tyson makes me think the Earth is flat with his stupid straw man comments. Is that all he has?
Edlow is a lawyer and loves his BALL.
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(04-27-2026, 12:17 AM)Knows Wrote: Where's the curvature? Provable reasons that something isn't quite right about the Official Story's. This is a pretty good video for those interested in the Flat Earth theories. Most of what he says makes a lot of sense.
Nobody believes the Earth is a disc floating in space. Neil deGrasse Tyson makes me think the Earth is flat with his stupid straw man comments. Is that all he has?
Edlow is a lawyer and loves his BALL.
Plenty of proof of the planet's curvature from ships disappearing hull-first over the horizon to different stars being visible at different latitudes.
Never mind the fact that during a lunar eclipse, Earth casts a round shadow on the Moon.
You just chose to disregard the overwhelming evidence from science, navigation, and space missions...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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The crew weren't just going on a joyride around the moon, there was science involved.
"The Artemis II mission involves comprehensive scientific investigations focused on human health in deep space and lunar geology observations. As the first crewed flight beyond low Earth orbit in over 50 years, the four astronauts serve as both research subjects and scientific ambassadors, collecting data to prepare for future missions to the Moon and Mars.
Human Health and Physiology Studies The crew participates in five primary health studies to understand how deep space travel affects the body and mind: - AVATAR (A Virtual Astronaut Tissue Analog Response): Uses organ-on-a-chip devices containing bone marrow cells from the crew to simulate the effects of radiation and microgravity on human tissue, aiming to enable personalized medical kits for future missions.
- ARCHeR (Artemis Research for Crew Health and Readiness): Monitors sleep patterns, stress levels, and cognitive performance using wearable wristbands to assess the impact of isolation and confinement on teamwork.
- Immune Biomarkers: Involves collecting saliva and blood samples to analyze immune system changes and check for the reactivation of dormant viruses like chickenpox and shingles due to space stressors.
- Standard Measures: A long-term study now extended to deep space, tracking physiological changes through blood, urine, and saliva samples to inform training and rehabilitation protocols.
- Radiation Monitoring: Utilizes six active sensors inside the Orion capsule and personal dosimeters worn by the crew to track exposure levels and provide warnings for solar storms.
Lunar Geology and International Collaboration During the lunar flyby, particularly while on the far side of the Moon, the crew conducts geological observations to support future surface missions like Artemis III: - Lunar Observations: Astronauts photograph and describe impact craters, ancient lava flows, and surface colorations to help scientists understand the Moon's geologic history and identify potential landing sites near the South Pole.
- CubeSat Deployments: International partners from Germany, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Argentina deploy CubeSats to conduct separate studies on space radiation, electrical component effects, and space weather in high Earth orbit. " (LLM)
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04-27-2026, 07:43 AM
This post was last modified: 04-27-2026, 07:44 AM by quintessentone. 
Earth completely occluding the Sun.
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(04-27-2026, 06:21 AM)andy06shake Wrote: (04-27-2026, 06:21 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Plenty of proof of the planet's curvature from ships disappearing hull-first over the horizon to different stars being visible at different latitudes.
Never mind the fact that during a lunar eclipse, Earth casts a round shadow on the Moon.
You just chose to disregard the overwhelming evidence from science, navigation, and space missions...
If you would have bothered to view the video I posted. You would have witnessed that you can zoom in with a zoom lens and still see the ships. Curve of earth is a fable myth. Military agrees with me.
Assume flat non rotating earth if important
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(04-27-2026, 03:48 PM)Knows Wrote: If you would have bothered to view the video I posted. You would have witnessed that you can zoom in with a zoom lens and still see the ships. Curve of earth is a fable myth. Military agrees with me.
Your video is from "bitchute.com"
They want an email that people are unwilling to provide for very obvious reasons.
Please provide a proper source.
One that does not popularise content from far-right individuals, conspiracy theorists, crackpots.
And does nothing but host creators banned from the mainstream platforms.
Now to address the rest of your bulls#it, zooming in doesn't restore hidden hulls, it only enlarges what's still above the horizon.
Ships disappear "bottom-first" due to "Earth's curvature" and line-of-sight geometry.
Satellite imagery, navigation systems, and global flight paths all independently confirm a spherical Earth.
And i think you may find the military does not deny or dispute any of the above.
Point of fact, they rely on those facts and physics to operate and achieve their mission goals...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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