Vladimir Putin 'spits in Trump's face'

[andy06shake]

Agreed.
He's being played.
Partly because Zelenskyy has played the USA for years.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Zelenskyy and Putin both suck.
Putin sucks way more though.

One is an ally and partner, even if it is not quite NATO.

And the other is a sworn enemy.

It's not about sucking.

It's about standing up to dictators and crushing their hopes and dreams with one united claw.

So a modicum of freedom can prevail. 

[FlyersFan]

One is an ally and partner, even if it is not quite NATO.

... and they are ripping us, and Europe, off by the billions.
You don't keep throwing money away, not even for an 'ally' who is stealing from us.

That's the kicker.   
Russia sucks.   They are the aggressor.
But Ukraine sucks too.
They are corrupt to the core.
How to stop Russia without funding the Ukraine corruption.
That's the problem.

[andy06shake]

... and they are ripping us, and Europe, off by the billions.
You don't keep throwing money away, not even for an 'ally' who is stealing from us.

That's the kicker.   
Russia sucks.   They are the aggressor.
But Ukraine sucks too.
They are corrupt to the core.
How to stop Russia without funding the Ukraine corruption.
That's the problem.

There will always be money for war.

Im sure they think the same about your own nation.

Don't change the fact that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and that's Ukraine.

That's not a problem, but the solution. 

And the only one at that.

Putin and the Russian regime have to go....

[DontTreadOnMe]

Yes.  He was with the  Witless   Witkoff delegation in Moscow.

I think you mispelled a word there, Carpy?
Otherwise, it might just look like political trolling, my friend 
Fixed it for you.

[xpert11]

A reliance on international sanctions in place of strategic thought, debate and understanding that battlefield success, including global public opinion, will decide the war, has brought us to the current farcical situation.   

The failure to confine international assistance to Ukraine to military and related equipment with strings attached is an epic blunder. Providing military hardware on the condition that it is used to crush Russian forces in Ukraine was the only sensible option. 

Putin's best hope is that the Western Front-style deadlock drains Ukraine's personal reserves. After battlefield mobility is restored, Russian forces seize Ukraine. However, Russia's modest industrial output and logistical base would struggle to support that outcome.

[Sky727]

At least Trump has been trying to end the war.... Sometimes you just need to stand back, support your side, and let them fight it out.

[ElitePlebeian]

I mean i actually thought Trump was a lot better equipped for the job of dealing with Mad Vlad than his predecessor.

I wish he would hurry up and prove me right....

That zombie president could hardly talk like a normal person or get of a stage. That alone makes it a fact Trump is better equiped.

[ElitePlebeian]

At least Trump has been trying to end the war.... Sometimes you just need to stand back, support your side, and let the fight it out.
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Indeed. But I think peace requires boots on the ground.

Also I dont understand why Putin was allowed to use foreign military but Ukraine isnt?... That shows weakness. The moment Russia started using soldiers from Belarus, China and North Korea we shouldve just entered. Or the EU at least.

[andy06shake]

That zombie president could hardly talk like a normal person or get of a stage. That alone makes it a fact Trump is better equiped.

It might be nice to see Trump stand up to Putin then.

And remind him of the second-rate little s@it that he is.

Trump was going to end all this in 24 hours.

And the fact is, there is no end in sight.

Or peace on the table.

[ElitePlebeian]

It might be nice to see Trump stand up to Putin then.

And remind him of the second-rate little s@it that he is.

Trump was going to end all this in 24 hours.

And the fact is, there is no end in sight.

Or peace on the table.

I disagree, if you take the medias word for it sure, but I dont since they will paint any and everything the Trump admin does in an extremely negative way. The fact were talking for about half a year now is a good thing, and brought us closer to an end in sight, because we now know what wont get there.

If you want peace you first have to exhaust all other options. And standing up with pouring money in again is not going to help either, weve done that, so the only remaining option is boots- on-the- ground-standing up against Putin. And that is the last thing we should try, but I do think it will be necessary.