USA just sunk a drug boat from Venezuela

[putnam6]

It’s best not to wait for something to happen before you speak out against it. 

We didn’t take any other president at their word. We would criticize trajectories they were on that were suspicious.

I don’t see why now should be any different. If other people want to blindly trust the plan, that is their right. I’m anti dumb wars, if we start to get war footing I’m simply just going to point out how bad of an idea it would be. Am I going to shift the needle? No. Will I lose sleep? Nope.

I just feel better about things if I say my piece. People are welcome to criticize how meaningless that is, I’m self aware and agree.

Ive added to my post, but all Im suggesting is that it's not etched in stone that an American war in Venezuela ends up like Iraq, or if we even have a war.

Like every Trump move ends in WCSWNFB, it is statistically impossible.

 The Democrats can't decide if they are Eeyore, Debbie Downer, or the goldfish in the Cat in the Hat, or a combination of all 3 

I'll keep saying it, why worry if he is screwing up so badly and the economy is in the shitter, and we are at war with Venezuela, what was your other Trumpian move destined to avalanche into doom, despair, and agony on the American people?

Certainly, he loses the House and Senate at the midterms. What else can go wrong in 13 months?

Hell, Im as broke as Ive ever been in my adult life, and Im more optimistic than Ive been in a long time.

We have even recouped over 62% of our shortfalls from Chicago. In the past, our little niche industry never recouped losses from major markets this fast; it usually takes half a year, if not longer.

Always in the past our business is the canary in the coal mine, the first to die and the last to revive.

Of course, most of that history was pre-COVID, so who knows, BUT you can be concerned and still be optimistic. 

As for Trump, my big fat rationalization is the DNC and the media hounded him so much in his first term, let's see how this plays out so far, mostly nothing has been done that can't be undone by a blue Congress and/or President, in 2,4,8 years.

Just a year ago, the American gubmint was just fine with Venezuela, having totally different dynamics, I don't even think Dubya and Dick could turn it into another Iraq. That was a unique moment in time.

[CriticalStinker]

As for Trump, my big fat rationalization is the DNC and the media hounded him so much in his first term, let's see how this plays out so far, mostly nothing has been done that can't be undone by a blue Congress and/or President, in 2,4,8 years.

The left doesn't even have a platform right now, so I don't think they're a safe guard or safety net of any sorts. If they ever were, it certainly wasn't in my lifetime.

As for things that can be undone, I don't think there has been an admin in my lifetime who was able to come in and undo something of their predecessor.

In just a little bit over 8 years, the last two presidents have added roughly 40% to our national debt. In just a couple of years, interest payments alone are going to be the number one federal expenditure. I don't think people understand the gravity of interest payments exceeding our military budget. I don't think most are imaginative enough to think of how that would have impacted the country if it was invested into infrastructure or something else that would be felt for decades.

Unfortunately, we're quickly approaching the point of not being able to undo things, or worse we've already passed it. More concerning to me, is people will just chalk off the experiment of an "outsider" after Trump, and voters capitulate back to the "normal" candidates when we are in need of a lot of change.

[chr0naut]

DESTROYED: Confirmed DRUG-CARRYING SUBMARINE navigating towards the United States on a well-known narcotrafficking transit route.

"Under my watch, the United States of America will not tolerate narcoterrorists trafficking illegal drugs, by land or by sea." - President Trump

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1979627240670560502

Maybe it was just one of those civilian merchant “fishing submarines”.

Why does the alleged submarine change shape from a very pointed prow, to a more rounded one, during the video?

Perhaps it's yet another social media repost of a bad AI deepfake?

[RichardHurt]

Why does the alleged submarine change shape from a very pointed prow, to a more rounded one, during the video?

Perhaps it's yet another social media repost of a bad AI deepfake?

I think you are aware of the clear gaslighting going on.
It's honestly a pretty solid game they are playing. Chances of these being drug boats is pretty high so it comes as no surprise that people eat that. I certainly don't want drugs being used as a weapon to weaken and diminish society. But we as the people absolutely have no idea who these people are nor any evidence that actually did harbor drugs or anything really that would be considered harmful to society that would warrant such an attack.
But by god it makes one hell of a PR stunt at the cost of life.

[chr0naut]

I dunno man, using a $100,000 hellfire to destroy millions of doses of poison destined for America , while taking out a few scumbag terrorists, seems like a pretty good use of taxpayer money to me.
I’ll continue to vote for that.

If they were tracking the boat/s why didn't they just arrest them all when they came inside national boundaries?

That would have been without the cost of expensive ordinance, with full evidence of their crimes, and with existing legal process?

[RichardHurt]

If they were tracking the boat/s why didn't they just arrest them all when they came inside national boundaries?

That would have been without the cost of expensive ordinance, with full evidence of their crimes, and with existing legal process?

Because it's America as fuck to blow shit up!
I can't tell you how many RC cars I loaded up and launched off ramps when I was younger just to watch the fireworks!

[Sky727]

If they were tracking the boat/s why didn't they just arrest them all when they came inside national boundaries?

That would have been without the cost of expensive ordinance, with full evidence of their crimes, and with existing legal process?

The fast boats being blown up are not drop off boats coming to America. They are but one leg of the supply chain. They meet up with another ship/boat or go to a place / country where the drugs are off loaded / repackaged in some cases, and then shipped on to America. If they are sunk where they are, close to Venezuela, that action actually saves lives both in America and at the 2d or 3d leg of the shipment route. 

Simple ....

[Maxmars]

... and the race to the perfect image is closing.

You absolutely can no longer trust ANY imagery, and literally half of what you actually "hear."

Not because people are sheep, not because we can't trust one another...

I submit that it may be because most of us don't listen to each other... preferring rather, a "branded" version of amalgamated opinion proposed as the thoughts of us all broadcast into our minds without any constraint ... leading to exactly this optional view of the "Hatesphere" that has become the world of public presence.

[chr0naut]

Because it's America as fuck to blow shit up!
I can't tell you how many RC cars I loaded up and launched off ramps when I was younger just to watch the fireworks!

Actually, I don't know of any country where blowing s#it up isn't spectacular!

I'm an Aussie (resident in New Zealand) and we have fireworks nights annually (usually Kings or Queens Birthday celebrations). When I was a child there were fewer restrictions on things and we took full advantage, taping the largest bungers together (called 'Thundas', from memory) with electrical tape and tying their wicks!

I also played around with 'chemistry' a bit, being a science nerd teen, and achieved some truly satisfying detonations far larger and more spectacular than anything I did as a child (my favourite involved a faked pyrotechnical 'tactical nuke', complete with a shaped charge low boom type explosion, very bright magnesium flash, and a mushroom cloud lit up from below with various slowly alternating colour combinations, which was great at parties, especially when people were a bit out-of-it).

Off topic, but fun.

[RichardHurt]

Actually, I don't know of any country where blowing s#it up isn't spectacular!

I'm an Aussie (resident in New Zealand) and we have fireworks nights annually (usually Kings or Queens Birthday celebrations). When I was a child there were fewer restrictions on things and we took full advantage taping the largest bungers together (called 'Thundas', from memory) with electrical tape and tying their wicks!

I also played around with 'chemistry' a bit, being a science nerd teen, and achieved some truly satisfying detonations far larger and more spectacular than anything I did as a child (my favourite involved a faked pyrotechnical 'tactical nuke', complete with a shaped charge low boom type explosion, very bright magnesium flash, and a mushroom cloud lit up from below with various slowly alternating colour combinations, which was great at parties, especially when people were a bit out-of-it).

Well then this may be something that could help bring some American things into prospective.
We like to play with things that hurt and harm and blow up. Some people take this beyond childhood games into not cool. But as a collective we have a odd fascination with shooting each other with frozen paintballs and pellets. Don't even get me started on potato cannons and if one still fucked around when they are older, a electronic magnetic projectile.
We grew up on blowing shit up and priding ourselves on our scars and burn marks.
This is America! We go hard bro