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(09-05-2025, 07:29 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: No.

It's people actually siding with criminals.

They (the evil left) don't have a platform other than complete control and power.

Freedom is a concept they mock.

That argument goes both ways.

There are times where the government kills people (who didn't pose an immediate threat), and it becomes political. In those moments, the government is looking to have complete power and control. 

Both sides have instances they point to, like Waco, Ruby Ridge, George Floyd ect. We could argue till we're blue in the face of which one of those were a bigger issue, but the point is the rules should always apply.

Citizens should have more rights than governments. 

This instance isn't the same, because we're talking about military vs police, I don't expect those same rules of engagement for our soldiers, nor do I want them. Plus, there is a far different standard for them obeying orders.
(09-05-2025, 07:50 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: That argument goes both ways.

There are times where the government kills people (who didn't pose an immediate threat), and it becomes political. In those moments, the government is looking to have complete power and control. 

Both sides have instances they point to, like Waco, Ruby Ridge, George Floyd ect. We could argue till we're blue in the face of which one of those were a bigger issue, but the point is the rules should always apply.

Citizens should have more rights than governments. 

This instance isn't the same, because we're talking about military vs police, I don't expect those same rules of engagement for our soldiers, nor do I want them. Plus, there is a far different standard for them obeying orders.

Rules?

Really?

Rules?

Broseph, we're in a civil war now.

On one side is people who like the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

On the other side is democrats and most republicans.

Sitting ona fence is no longer an option.
(09-05-2025, 07:29 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: It's people actually siding with criminals.

They (the evil left) don't have a platform other than complete control and power.

Freedom is a concept they mock.


Considering  the insane amount of 'Tren de Aragua' terrorists the evil left welcomed into the country with open arms and generous US benefits, I'd say they are doing more than just "siding" with the criminals.

It appears they consider these narco-terrorists to be actual dual Venezuelan/US citizens.
(09-05-2025, 07:54 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Rules?

Really?

Rules?

Broseph, we're in a civil war now.

On one side is people who like the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

On the other side is democrats and most republicans.

Sitting ona fence is no longer an option.

I'm not a fence sitter, I've never been for either of those sides. The only R or D I ever voted for was Trump, but I saw him more of a independent/gamble like Perot or Paul. 

I don't see how Trump is for the constitution or bill of rights more than most other presidents.
(09-05-2025, 07:54 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: On one side is people who like the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

On the other side is democrats and most republicans. Including most MAGA

Fixed it for ya
(09-05-2025, 07:58 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote:  

I don't see how Trump is for the constitution or bill of rights more than most other presidents.

Then you haven't been paying attention.
(09-05-2025, 08:19 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Fixed it for ya



Yeah, no.  Making America Great is something YOU might be against, but then again, I don't hate and want to destroy my country.
(09-05-2025, 08:21 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Yeah, no.  Making America Great is something YOU might be against, but then again, I don't hate and want to destroy my country.

the only two sides are

Anti- corruption vs corruption proponents & apologists

That's it

Has nothing to do with party politics
(09-05-2025, 08:25 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: the only two sides are

Anti- corruption vs corruption proponents & apologists

That's it

Has nothing to do with party politics

Yeah, uh please tell me what democrats you're critical of.

Lol
(09-05-2025, 08:29 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Yeah, uh please tell me what democrats you're critical of.

Lol

You have to categorize me as an "evil leftist" because your brain can't conceptualize any angle other than 'left vs right'



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