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(09-28-2025, 05:03 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: I'd be happy to be back on topic, are you going to quote the "sources" you posted to show "your thoights" or keep hiding behind the "you don't know how to intperet my nonsensical bullshit"? 

Ill be waiting, but i know you wont

They are all on this thread. Go for it.
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(09-28-2025, 03:17 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Trump and his unqualified staff are not trying to stop autism, if they were they would ban pesticides and other chemical poisons in the environment.

Then you and trump have something in common. Who knew?
                                   
(09-28-2025, 03:49 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I would not have wanted to prevent any of those on that list from contributing what they have contributed.

Yeah and you wouldn't want to prevent someone from being born disabled. You have a small list, there is about 4.6 cases of severe autism out of 1000 kids 8 years old. There is about 4 million 8 year olds in the USA, So you do the math on that if you are capable. That is just current though. That don't count decades of autistic kids. 

But none of those facts matter to you, we had a few supposedly autistic famous people, so screw the 100s of thousands if not millions that have been totally ______ by autism. You are truly a hero of autism. 


I wonder if hitler thought along the same lines. Why would I want to stop these jews from suffering? He must have figured he was helping them by building gas chambers.
                                   
(09-28-2025, 06:54 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: Yeah and you wouldn't want to prevent someone from being born disabled. You have a small list, there is about 4.6 cases of severe autism out of 1000 kids 8 years old. There is about 4 million 8 year olds in the USA, So you do the math on that if you are capable. That is just current though. That don't count decades of autistic kids. 

But none of those facts matter to you, we had a few supposedly autistic famous people, so screw the 100s of thousands if not millions that have been totally ______ by autism. You are truly a hero of autism. 


I wonder if hitler thought along the same lines. Why would I want to stop these jews from suffering? He must have figured he was helping them by building gas chambers.

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(09-28-2025, 07:01 PM)ANNEE Wrote: You enjoy your ride.

So long as you enjoy your delusion. I won't be enjoying any ride.
                                   
You know what seems sorrowful to me?  

Most people I have talked to are only interested in this health question insofar as it relates to their politics.  There are a lot of fully vetted medical studies that indicate a causal relationship between prenatal use of Paracetamol and increased risk of autism/ADHD/Intellectual disability.   They have known it for nearly 10 years.   Rachel Weinstein, the former epidemiologist of Jannsen, acknowledged the weight of the evidence in 2018.  

And yet, here we sit Trump this, Trump that,  making it about politics rather than the health issue.  Makes me sick.   All is needed is that the information get out, and it has.  All is needed is that a simple warning on the box of possible risk.   That way, any pregnant woman can now make an informed decision.  In a way, such a declaration on the box, absolves Tylenol (or Paracetamol outside of the U.S.) of liability, just like the warning on the side of a pack of cigarettes.   Hey, we warned you.  The data and studies are there for everyone to see.   You can even get it translated into your native language.  

But no, it's got to be about slagging politicians.    That very divide is ruining the U.S.  Are we going to have a civil war spurred on by pharmaceuticals?   Big phama is likely all in for that!   It is moving beyond the U.S.   I was watching Sky News and BBC yesterday.   Same nonsense.   Orange man full o' shit.   No worries.  Our CMOs have it well in hand, and are packing 20 year old reports.
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(09-28-2025, 07:54 PM)argentus Wrote: You know what seems sorrowful to me?  

Most people I have talked to are only interested in this health question insofar as it relates to their politics.  There are a lot of fully vetted medical studies that indicate a causal relationship between prenatal use of Paracetamol and increased risk of autism/ADHD/Intellectual disability.   They have known it for nearly 10 years.   Rachel Weinstein, the former epidemiologist of Jannsen, acknowledged the weight of the evidence in 2018.  

And yet, here we sit Trump this, Trump that,  making it about politics rather than the health issue.  Makes me sick.   All is needed is that the information get out, and it has.  All is needed is that a simple warning on the box of possible risk.   That way, any pregnant woman can now make an informed decision.  In a way, such a declaration on the box, absolves Tylenol (or Paracetamol outside of the U.S.) of liability, just like the warning on the side of a pack of cigarettes.   Hey, we warned you.  The data and studies are there for everyone to see.   You can even get it translated into your native language.  

But no, it's got to be about slagging politicians.    That very divide is ruining the U.S.  Are we going to have a civil war spurred on by pharmaceuticals?   Big phama is likely all in for that!   It is moving beyond the U.S.   I was watching Sky News and BBC yesterday.   Same nonsense.   Orange man full o' shit.   No worries.  Our CMOs have it well in hand, and are packing 20 year old reports.

Is it too conspiratorial, then, to think that perhaps when faced with a growing body of evidence, the makers of this drug decided to covertly encourage the Trump administration to take it up as a public-health torch, knowing that would be the best way to "defuse" the time-bomb, by giving cover to the problem as a crazy antivax-type conspiracy theory, while gradually, behind the scenes, more responsible physicians changed their advice for pregnant women?

Naah, too complicated. Puzzled
(09-28-2025, 08:29 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Is it too conspiratorial, then, to think that perhaps when faced with a growing body of evidence, the makers of this drug decided to covertly encourage the Trump administration to take it up as a public-health torch, knowing that would be the best way to "defuse" the time-bomb, by giving cover to the problem as a crazy antivax-type conspiracy theory, while gradually, behind the scenes, more responsible physicians changed their advice for pregnant women?

Naah, too complicated. Puzzled

Ten years ago I would have called that moonbat talk.   Right now, I think it's deliciously evil.   Evile even.  I think you might be onto something.   Thumbup Thumbup
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(09-26-2025, 07:32 AM)quintessentone Wrote:
(09-26-2025, 07:32 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Why would it paywall on your end? Strange. Also strange is why turning on your VPN would solve that issue?

So when we use the word money and government together, that would mean the people pay.
Sometimes the paywall comes up after a certain amount of times an IP has visited the site, could just a few incidental visits over the year. A VPN would shield your IP.

And it could possibly be a geographical thing. Andy is in Scotland I think?
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