(11-15-2024, 01:51 PM)AgarthaSeed Wrote: My take on this may be a little hot, but throughout all of the conversations I've had over the past few days, my views are shared by nearly everyone I spoke with who was under the age of 50. The over 50 crowd....not so much.
Everyone is on the lookout for neocons but there's a beast that's equally as bad : the Israel first candidates.
Pete Hegseth.
Marco Rubio.
Kristi Noem.
Elisa Stefanik.
Mike Waltz.
Mike Huckabee.
All of these idiots value Israel's prosperity over American prosperity. And they've all proudly declared it many times. Occasionally you'll see a random Twitter post from any of these phonies joyfully announcing that Israel is our greatest ally ( but never declaring exactly why .) When I was younger I used to imagine they'd be tweeting this with a gun held to their head. Then I realized that it's actually just their assigned AIPAC agent making sure they pay their penance.
Ironically the 2 actual Jews in Trump's cabinet seem to represent American interests much more than the listed fools above. Stephen Miller and Lee Zeldin have show a strong record of supporting America first and Trump policies.
But the Israeli loyalty is a cancer in American politics. They're not exceptional as a nation. If any other nation had an AIPAC style lobby, they'd be registered as foreign agents.
Again some of Gen X, but much of the millenials and Gen Z completely understand this. The Zionist Christian boomers have a major blind spot on this issue.
I'll leave you with a quote from our incoming Secretary of Defense, U.S military veteran Pete Hegseth:
""anyone who wants to talk about dual loyalty is dead wrong. Zionism and Americanism are intertwined as "the front lines of Western civilization and freedom in our world today,"
No sir, Zionism and Americanism are certainly not intertwined. You serve one nation. Pick it
I am not a Zionist, nor a Boomer. Zionist is a slur, and when I hear it, I know what comes next is probably going to be anti-Semitic. David Duke just loved that word!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_as_a_pejorative
(don't know how to create links here on DI yet)
Politically speaking, Israel has a right to exist as a nation and people. As the only free, Westernized nation in the ME, politically I support Israel. Not to the point of putting it before my own nation. And I have no evidence that any politician is doing such. But they are an ally in a hostile territory. A tiny nation, surrounded on all sides by political and cultural enemies.
My hot take: Religion. That's what sets it apart. We are tied to Israel as part of the "Judeo-Christian" foundation of our nation. Like it or not, religious or not. Jews and Christians are spiritually connected.
Israel is used as a political pawn by some politicians who just want the Christian votes. Some politicians are Christians who actually feel a spiritual responsibility to support Israel. Spiritual, adopted siblings as we are.
As a Christian, I have a more spiritual/Biblical worldview and believe Israel has spiritual significance. What I see happening in America and the world at large is viewed through more of a spiritual lens than most, I'd say, based on my own conversations.
America and Israel are just about all that's left who stand in the way of a OWG, which is inevitable, Biblically speaking.
ETA: I'm GenX FWIW