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(10-07-2025, 02:23 PM)Vermilion Wrote: She shouldn’t be pardoned.
Trump won’t, there’s no win in that.
Trump didn’t say he would pardon her.
Trump didn’t say he would look at pardoning her either.
This whole thread is just another lazy Trump bashing thread but it needed a little perspective for the libs who are pretending they care about trafficking, kids, or SA.
Video is in the second comment.
Direct quote-“I haven’t heard the name in so long. I can say this, that I’d have to take a look at it. I would have to take a look.’ Asked to confirm whether he was considering such an action, Trump responded: ‘I wouldn’t consider it or not consider.’”
A simple no would have been better. But he didn’t say no, instead he said he’d have to take a look at it, and that he wouldn’t consider it or not consider.
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(10-07-2025, 02:45 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Video is in the second comment.
Direct quote-“I haven’t heard the name in so long. I can say this, that I’d have to take a look at it. I would have to take a look.’ Asked to confirm whether he was considering such an action, Trump responded: ‘I wouldn’t consider it or not consider.’”
A simple no would have been better. But he didn’t say no, instead he said he’d have to take a look at it, and that he wouldn’t consider it or not consider.
He would take a look at it, in the context of IT being ‘the Court not looking at her appeal.’
Also, “I wouldn’t consider it” seems pretty straightforward that he won’t pardon her (because there’s no win in it) and the rest is trolling libs which I figured yall would recognize by now.
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(10-07-2025, 02:54 PM)Vermilion Wrote: He would take a look at it, in the context of IT being ‘the Court not looking at her appeal.’
Also, “I wouldn’t consider it” seems pretty straightforward that he won’t pardon her (because there’s no win in it) and the rest is trolling libs which I figured yall would recognize by now.
I would consider it would be straight forward if you didn’t instantly nullify it by saying or not consider.
I don’t see how any of this could be “trolling libs”. There’s a lot of people who aren’t liberal that don’t like the concept of this. I would hope that a human or patriot wouldn’t want such a failure of justice straight from the White House.
Aside from that, I’ve lost count on how many times people have said “he’s just trolling, he won’t do that” and then he does it. The goal posts just keep moving. He’s proven that even the constitution doesn’t apply to him, so why should we assume he wouldn’t be above something like this?
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(10-07-2025, 03:07 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I wouldn’t consider it would be straight forward if you didn’t instantly nullify it by saying or not consider.
I don’t see how any of this could be “trolling libs”. There’s a lot of people who aren’t liberal that don’t like the concept of this. I would hope that a human or patriot wouldn’t want such a failure of justice straight from the White House.
Aside from that, I’ve lost count on how many times people have said “he’s just trolling, he won’t do that” and then he does it. The goal posts just keep moving. He’s proven that even the constitution doesn’t apply to him, so why should we assume he wouldn’t be above something like this?
I’m glad you agree he was actually talking about the Court and not the pardon.
Your credibility remains good sir.
He is the ultimate troll and who can blame him?
All the nasty unprecedented lawfare, hoaxes and sliming they’ve done to him and the damage it’s caused to the system.
It’s exactly why people voted for him.
Imagine how many closet Trump voters are actually registered democrats.
Democrat party is hated by their own members for what it’s turned into.
It’s controlled by a handful of lefty billionaires, racist grifters, and loud socialist theater kids who have only managed to make America garbage.
There is zero upside in Trump pardoning her.
“I wouldn’t consider it”
She, and Epstein, were not his friends and he helped the victims more than anybody else, according to them and their lawyers.
A better question is why isn’t Chelsea Clinton pushing for her pardon?
After all, was important enough to get invited to her wedding.
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(10-07-2025, 03:34 PM)Vermilion Wrote: I’m glad you agree he was actually talking about the Court and not the pardon.
Your credibility remains good sir.
He is the ultimate troll and who can blame him?
All the nasty unprecedented lawfare, hoaxes and sliming they’ve done to him and the damage it’s caused to the system.
It’s exactly why people voted for him.
Imagine how many closet Trump voters are actually registered democrats.
Democrat party is hated by their own members for what it’s turned into.
It’s controlled by a handful of lefty billionaires, racist grifters, and loud socialist theater kids who have only managed to make America garbage.
There is zero upside in Trump pardoning her.
“I wouldn’t consider it”
She, and Epstein, were not his friends and he helped the victims more than anybody else, according to them and their lawyers.
A better question is why isn’t Chelsea Clinton pushing for her pardon?
After all, was important enough to get invited to her wedding.
I can appreciate why people find it refreshing that Trump sticks it to people (albeit selectively) in politics after we've had horrible admins who were lying and condescending.
That said, it doesn't work in politics like it does in business. If you're the CEO of a company, you can just fire everyone who doesn't fall in line. In politics and government, you can't fire elected officials, you have to win them over and lead them.
When Trump won the first term, he could have dialed down his style, and had a chance to bring people together, hell, even his own party since they had house and senate. In the first two years, they spun their tires, and debt increased at the same rate as Obama. Then COVID came, and he got a record one term deficit for recent history.
What are we doing now? Is it coming down? No. So one of the biggest threats to our country, and instead people are just happy he's trolling people by not saying no to pardoning her (after he told reporters he has the right two a month or two ago).
Very little has made it through congress. And the tariffs have been deemed unconstitutional, because Trump doesn't have the power to implement tariffs to the whole planet. If SCOTUS upholds that ruling, the BBB is going to murder us economically without the tariffs to offset it. That's failed leadership right there, they could have put it through congress but instead he wanted to be the one running the show.
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I’m sorry but the gloves are off.
Democrats tried to kill him twice.
He was shot in the head ffs.
If that doesn’t entitle him to use some strong language than what does?
He has never called for violence, only peace.
The political violence coming from the left is off the hook.
That Democrat Virginia AG candidate was just caught wishing death on an elected politician and her kids.
Another asshole is being arraigned tomorrow, James Comey.
Trump didn’t kick down his door at 6am, raid his wife’s panty drawers, or drag him into the PD in leg shackles like he could have done.
Instead, he called some people scum bags.
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(10-07-2025, 05:33 PM)Vermilion Wrote: I’m sorry but the gloves are off.
Democrats tried to kill him twice.
He was shot in the head ffs.
If that doesn’t entitle him to use some strong language than what does?
He has never called for violence, only peace.
The political violence coming from the left is off the hook.
That Democrat Virginia AG candidate was just caught wishing death on an elected politician and her kids.
Another asshole is being arraigned tomorrow, James Comey.
Trump didn’t kick down his door at 6am, raid his wife’s panty drawers, or drag him into the PD in leg shackles like he could have done.
Instead, he called some people scum bags.
I'm not part of the left, I've never voted for them in national elections.
Just because they suck, doesn't give the right a blank check to do the same stuff.
On just about all the things they hate the left for, they do too. Just because some lunatic shot at him doesn't mean Trump can do whatever he wants, and make executive orders against the constitution.
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One common thing that narcissists hate more than most is being constantly called out on their bullshit.
When you use a lie or hyperbole to gain support, be it an election, a following or a base, you are accountable for living up to the promises.
When a narcissist will usually do is to force attention elsewhere, away from the source of contention. Anything to get people calling them out to look another direction or reform their opinion. Remember what they say...."tell a lie often enough and people will believe it as truth"
I get the feeling that donnyboy want's to put anything Epstein-related behind him. He ran with it to help win the election, fully knowing (my opion) there was only smoke but no fire. Now that it's time to put up or shut up.. here we are
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(10-07-2025, 05:47 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I'm not part of the left, I've never voted for them in national elections.
Just because they suck, doesn't give the right a blank check to do the same stuff.
On just about all the things they hate the left for, they do too. Just because some lunatic shot at him doesn't mean Trump can do whatever he wants, and make executive orders against the constitution.
That’s exactly what I’m saying.
Trump is not doing the same things the left has been doing.
He’s not calling for violence against the left.
He’s beefing up security.
He’s not swatting them, perp walking them, or putting their mugshots on blast.
He’s allowing them to turn themselves in at their leisure.
The Supreme Court keeps saying Trump’s correct to the tune of 22-0, in only 9 months.
That’s a record that won’t easily be beaten.
At the end of four years he’s going to be the SCOTUS Hit King.
Trump hasn’t even ignored or defied those lower activist judges.
Trump clearly is NOT doing the “same stuff”.
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(10-07-2025, 06:04 PM)Vermilion Wrote: That’s exactly what I’m saying.
Trump is not doing the same things the left has been doing.
He’s not calling for violence against the left.
He’s beefing up security.
He’s not swatting them, perp walking them, or putting their mugshots on blast.
He’s allowing them to turn themselves in at their leisure.
The Supreme Court keeps saying Trump’s correct to the tune of 22-0, in only 9 months.
That’s a record that won’t easily be beaten.
At the end of four years he’s going to be the SCOTUS Hit King.
Trump hasn’t even ignored or defied those lower activist judges.
Trump clearly is NOT doing the “same stuff”.
Using private communication instead of government communication, check. (This used to be an offense they wanted people jailed for)
Having people in the family benefit from foreign policy, check.
Putting pressure on social media companies to censor, check.
Using power to actually go against freedom of speech, check.
Trying to expand executive power, check.
Reckless spending increasing the deficit, check.
And he has a few executive orders that go against the constitution to boot. He's the same as the rest of them.
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