06-03-2024, 12:29 PM
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(06-03-2024, 04:30 AM)K218b Wrote: I do agree that both liberals and conservatives can and do use their media friends in away it suits them. There is no doubt about and we have seen it many times in the past. It will be repeated again and again. But the calls for riots and violence from some of his supporters is not something new. It has happened in the past, it's happening now, and it will happen in the future.
You are making a lot of strawman arguments.
The media didn't say all his supporters are in are calling for violence and riots but some of his supporters. And that's true. It's factual. They ve done it in the past and acted upon these threats when they stormed the Capitol.
It is Monday but the press reported on the threats made by some of his supporters. They didn't say these threats will materialise or are likely to materialise.
Do you still think your opinion is more reliable as a source thsn all the sources I have provided? Ok, sometimes the newspapers could report this that are wrong and not factual. But is this the case?
When I make a statement that "Supporters are calling for riots and violence," in what way does that represent that NOT ALL supporters are calling for riots and violence?
It is not a matter of what is true or not when I invoke blanket judgements... it implies that the problem is in the supporters, not some, not a few, not radical elements, not some tiny proportion of people speaking of themselves and thier wishes,... it means exactly what it says... "supporters."
If one is a supporter, they are now subject to the assertion. It is an accusation against one example - cast upon anyone with whom 'they say' they agree. This is the toxicity of partisan misrepresentation. It creates a foundational premise upon which all manner of spurious aspersions can now rest. The title means what it says... that's why it was crafted and selected for publication... To engender a thought in the audience, "embrace this" is the purpose of the title, "this is what it is all about."
It is the one thing that causes me to repeatedly post that what most of us suffer from, is a lack of understanding of rhetoric... one of those "three R's" that was ejected by educator-leaders decades ago. Reading, Writing, Rhetoric... foundational elements of effective understanding of communication. Without a focus on rhetoric, we are only "victims" of whatever the people with the sanctioned platform produce. Hence, "You agree with the 'MAGA people'? You must be a violent element of society!"
The press reported on a single instance of some misguided person uttering a repugnant idea... and still you summarize as saying "some" Trump supporters... not ONE... but "some." (Yes, "one" is "some"... but that kind of litigiousness is far beneath us, save that for lawyer-town.) I only point out how easy it is, how casually we 'repackage,' the media by reinforcing their verbal 'sleight of hand.' And I won't posture to attack you on what you "didn't" say... but I am allowed to interpret just as anyone else is... so I can just as easily point out that you also never indicated just how unlikely this one persons' utterances represent a newsworthy political call for anti-social behavior.
You persist in evoking the January 6th "riot"... but no other riots? Can we take that up elsewhere please? This is about the Trump trial results engendering violence, no?
